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Uncle Joe

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31. You're taking the "I" word too literally and the last paragraph

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:02 PM

Dec 2013

no doubt speaks truth.

The NSA like any other entrenched governmental bureaucracy wants to maintain or have expanded power and resources ie:money flowing to it. They or at least the ones at the top will fight or lobby for more whether they actually need it or not.

When our democratic republic is strengthened as Snowden is alluding to by living within and respecting the American Peoples' Constitutional (civil) rights all aspects of the government in general is more empowered as well whether they know it or not because the American People have more faith, inclusion and participation to support the government.

The alternative is a growing disenfranchisment, alienation or disconnection of the American Citizen from "We the people" turning us in to suspects first, this in turn weakens our government making our entire enterprise much more unstable.

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"The NSA�s business is �information dominance,� the use of other people�s secrets to shape events." Pholus Dec 2013 #1

�I am still working for BAH right now." ucrdem Dec 2013 #2

Thank you, Edward Snowden. woo me with science Dec 2013 #3

As I recall this person was a private contractor for the NSA. gordianot Dec 2013 #4

Booz Allen Hamilton. ucrdem Dec 2013 #17

His point stands. The NSA isn't a worthy Aerows Dec 2013 #68

Snowden deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #5

yep Fuddnik kpete Dec 2013 #6

+1 cantbeserious Dec 2013 #8

+1. jsr Dec 2013 #46

agreed, 100 percent.... mike_c Dec 2013 #72

I'm able to appreciate Snowden while disliking him TekGryphon Dec 2013 #7

What's your basis for that being his last straw? Broward Dec 2013 #10

The fact that he was all gung-ho about national security while... TekGryphon Dec 2013 #14

Making up shit. former9thward Dec 2013 #39

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #40

Your garbage means has nothing to back up your claims. former9thward Dec 2013 #47

3 seconds on Google would get you.. TekGryphon Dec 2013 #50

Unlike your google my google is rational. former9thward Dec 2013 #59

All signs points to him being a patriot. zeemike Dec 2013 #12

My signs are hearsay? Prove it. TekGryphon Dec 2013 #13

No no, that is not how it works. zeemike Dec 2013 #20

Oh, it's easy for me. TekGryphon Dec 2013 #35

Snowden started work as a contractor for the NSA in 2009 RC Dec 2013 #41

And his transcripts show that: TekGryphon Dec 2013 #45

I do not understand how you can equate exposing unconstitutional wrong doing of the NSA with Glen Beck RC Dec 2013 #51

He blew the whistle for one reason: TekGryphon Dec 2013 #52

Snowden said he blew the whistle because our President is Black? RC Dec 2013 #56

So what do you want done? Ignore the Constitutional violations because he is a racist? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #74

YOU are the one making the logical leap that it's *BECAUSE* "we have a black president" yodermon Dec 2013 #65

Or a patsy, or an asset, ucrdem Dec 2013 #21

And you can prove this how? zeemike Dec 2013 #22

Call it due process then. ucrdem Dec 2013 #29

yes like all the accused commies were chomping at the bit zeemike Dec 2013 #36

Good to know that Tea Party loons are Patriots according to you. TekGryphon Dec 2013 #38

Well let me explain something to you if I may. zeemike Dec 2013 #63

How do you know that poster in your link is Snowden? riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #66

Oh how nice of him to give us that chance! treestar Dec 2013 #9

Everything was going along fine with that process before Snowden came along, wasn't it! gtar100 Dec 2013 #27

He could have used the whistleblower protection act treestar Dec 2013 #28

Hldhave ended up in Gitmo mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #42

Baloney treestar Dec 2013 #62

On paper, yes those options were available. But I have seen no evidence that those laws have been gtar100 Dec 2013 #58

I have little doubt he'd have been tried in federal court treestar Dec 2013 #64

are you freaking kidding? grasswire Dec 2013 #30

You've constructed a strange world in your head treestar Dec 2013 #33

"The government is not reading your email" former9thward Dec 2013 #43

And whose side are you on in this class war? You seem to worship the authoritarian rhett o rick Dec 2013 #75

He won in that he was able to give us information they didn't want us to have. As far as us having liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #11

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #15

"I am not trying to bring down the NSA..." ProSense Dec 2013 #16

Snowden is not referring to a personal win but a win for the cause. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #23

He said ProSense Dec 2013 #25

You're taking the "I" word too literally and the last paragraph Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #31

No, I think you want this to be another gem from Snowden, but ProSense Dec 2013 #44

You took the "I already won" out of context, if you include the rest of the paragraph, Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #48

It's very creepy and pure Snowden.. mahalo Cha Dec 2013 #70

Of course you side with the authoritarians state of Clapper and Alexander, who are not DEMOCRATS. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #76

K&R'd! snot Dec 2013 #18

A rolling stone gathers no moss PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #19

The world won. Thanks to Snowden. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #24

Hero, patriot, defender of the Constitution. Thank you Edward Snowden. Scuba Dec 2013 #26

He's akin to the Chinese man in Tienamin Square grasswire Dec 2013 #34

I always thought that inevitable stupidicus Dec 2013 #32

merry xmas kpete! ucrdem Dec 2013 #37

ucrdem kpete Dec 2013 #53

The Whistle Blowers are the protectors of our Democracy! bvar22 Dec 2013 #49

Whole lotta "I" and "me" in all that. MADem Dec 2013 #54

I noticed that. Narcissism is amusing. nt politichew Dec 2013 #57

He was asked "to reflect at length on the roots and repercussions of his choice." ronnie624 Dec 2013 #79

Not "small and irrelevant"--it's precisely the point. MADem Dec 2013 #80

That KGB asset should have the decency to stay out of the media during our nation's holidays. nt politichew Dec 2013 #55

Yes, otherwise it might be taken as a "War on the Holidays." Pholus Dec 2013 #60

Now Snowden is contributing to the war on Christmas? ! riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #67

:) I know, right? nt Pholus Dec 2013 #69

Eddie needed a fix. nm Cha Dec 2013 #71

And you stand with Booz-Allen against those that dare to desire freedom and liberty. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #77

it's my nation too... mike_c Dec 2013 #73

�All I wanted was for the public to be able to have a say in how they are governed,� he said. gulliver Dec 2013 #61

Geez...why didn't he go to his hero, Rand Paul, on the Senate Intel Committee? MADem Dec 2013 #81

k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #78