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In reply to the discussion: Do you find this offensive? [View all]Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Really??? Do we really think that men are going to look at images of a performance like that (which can be seen on any dance floor anywhere by the way, including on mass media tv), and then walk out on the public streets and look only at women's eyes, respectfully? To assert that we do expect that is dishonest bullshit! Look at the OP images again -- we're quite clearly encouraging men to treat women in a particular way, and it isn't good! And when it's presented as something that is ok to see in public, it's presumed to be ok public behavior. It's simply "monkey see, monkey do". I'm sitting here wondering, do we really not get this? Just how dumb are we today?
If this is the acceptable norm for pop culture entertainment now, as it certainly seems to be from all I can tell (and it must be, because there is no noticeable objection to it from DU's feminists in this thread), then it is preposterous to complain about leering behavior on the streets, as several current threads in GD are heatedly doing. The lack of objection in this thread shows that those leering threads are completely phony "fighting only for the sake of fighting", without any point.
If this isn't encouraging people to see women as "sexual objects", then that term has no definition left at all, and the whole issue has no frame of reference anymore.
Feminists, if this is ok with you, then your complaints about objectification are bullshit, a meaningless joke and a fraud. "Friends of women", if you care about how women are treated, and a pop culture like this is ok with you, the same goes for you.
Yes, I have a problem with those images -- I think they are degrading to all women (of which I am one). I may not be able to do much to change pop culture, but I'll be damned if I'll sit by anymore and say that it's ok with me. No, it sure isn't. I'm sick and tired of seeing it, getting more and more disgusting each year, while everybody says sure it's fine -- just as if they wouldn't say "shit" if they had a mouthful of it. Well figuratively, that's the case alright. And it's about time to say so, and quit feeding the mass pretense.
Miley Cyrus, you're a dangerous, destructive twit (although certainly not the only one, more's the pity). And it's a real shame our society can't find something more worthwhile to reward that much.