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Waiting For Everyman

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96. I think this is why women get disgusting catcalls on the street.
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Dec 2013

Really??? Do we really think that men are going to look at images of a performance like that (which can be seen on any dance floor anywhere by the way, including on mass media tv), and then walk out on the public streets and look only at women's eyes, respectfully? To assert that we do expect that is dishonest bullshit! Look at the OP images again -- we're quite clearly encouraging men to treat women in a particular way, and it isn't good! And when it's presented as something that is ok to see in public, it's presumed to be ok public behavior. It's simply "monkey see, monkey do". I'm sitting here wondering, do we really not get this? Just how dumb are we today?

If this is the acceptable norm for pop culture entertainment now, as it certainly seems to be from all I can tell (and it must be, because there is no noticeable objection to it from DU's feminists in this thread), then it is preposterous to complain about leering behavior on the streets, as several current threads in GD are heatedly doing. The lack of objection in this thread shows that those leering threads are completely phony "fighting only for the sake of fighting", without any point.

If this isn't encouraging people to see women as "sexual objects", then that term has no definition left at all, and the whole issue has no frame of reference anymore.

Feminists, if this is ok with you, then your complaints about objectification are bullshit, a meaningless joke and a fraud. "Friends of women", if you care about how women are treated, and a pop culture like this is ok with you, the same goes for you.

Yes, I have a problem with those images -- I think they are degrading to all women (of which I am one). I may not be able to do much to change pop culture, but I'll be damned if I'll sit by anymore and say that it's ok with me. No, it sure isn't. I'm sick and tired of seeing it, getting more and more disgusting each year, while everybody says sure it's fine -- just as if they wouldn't say "shit" if they had a mouthful of it. Well figuratively, that's the case alright. And it's about time to say so, and quit feeding the mass pretense.

Miley Cyrus, you're a dangerous, destructive twit (although certainly not the only one, more's the pity). And it's a real shame our society can't find something more worthwhile to reward that much.

Do you find this offensive? [View all] Skip Intro Dec 2013 OP
White Santa - No Problem jberryhill Dec 2013 #1
I find it disturbing and unsexy Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #2
do you have a ... meh. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #3
Depends on context... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #4
It flat out pisses me off pintobean Dec 2013 #5
"Hey Santa. Pass us that bottle, will ya?" opiate69 Dec 2013 #14
+1 nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #36
... Initech Dec 2013 #30
LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #123
If you had to deal with that many of other people's kids... RC Dec 2013 #88
Yes. Because reporting it is what they want you to do. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #6
Obnoxious elleng Dec 2013 #7
Any opinion on this would be sexist, so it is a trap! The Straight Story Dec 2013 #8
hmm... dawg Dec 2013 #9
You'll be spanked for that... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #12
I post on DU don't I? The Straight Story Dec 2013 #37
Yes. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #10
I don't think Mrs. Claus would be amused either RC Dec 2013 #89
Looks like he's trying to finish that "naughty and nice" list jberryhill Dec 2013 #154
Not offensive, but not appropriate entertainment for kids JVS Dec 2013 #11
"You gotta have a gimmick...especially when you don't have any talent." rocktivity Dec 2013 #13
ditto dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #56
^^ This, for the win ^^ Myrina Dec 2013 #136
A candy cane that big sends a terrible message about nutrition and dental health. n/t Silent3 Dec 2013 #15
How about stupid *and* offensive? Brigid Dec 2013 #16
"...stupid *and* offensive?" RC Dec 2013 #93
I don't find her sexuality offensive at all, and I like her voice. I don't like all of her liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #17
I find it tacky and dumb, but not offensive Scootaloo Dec 2013 #18
No, I don't, but your poll is slanted. JackBeck Dec 2013 #19
Offensive? No...I don't offend that easily. Tasteless and sleazy? You betcha. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #20
Classy and of compelling artistic merit. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #21
is the new meeting to sitting on Santa's lap Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #22
I find it stupid. n/t man4allcats Dec 2013 #23
I find it tedious. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #24
+1 treestar Dec 2013 #81
Annoying but not offensive. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #25
Not offensive but raunchy. nt Live and Learn Dec 2013 #26
How about "boring" and "obvious?" Orrex Dec 2013 #27
There's no *yawn* category... Rhythm Dec 2013 #28
does nobody remember being young? Do the sixties ring a bell for anyone? liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #29
She gets a pass for the reach around while twerking Santa. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #31
Ho Ho Ho!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #76
Sad that she doesn't have enough confidence in her own talent....... WillowTree Dec 2013 #32
I find all efforts to exploit ignorant white folks as "poor white trash" as offensive as grantcart Dec 2013 #33
I find it stupid, ridiculous and a pathetic sad attempt for attention. nt Raine Dec 2013 #34
I didn't know she did a Christmas themed twerk. rrneck Dec 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Dec 2013 #38
I find it stupid. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #39
Sad. Just tired and sad. pnwest Dec 2013 #40
Not offensive, just silly. To be offended one would have to take it seriously. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #41
with actual porn so readily available, this isn't shocking but it isn't pretty either yurbud Dec 2013 #42
No. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #43
I reserve the term offensive for more serious matters. Oakenshield Dec 2013 #44
Other - like the Duck Dynasty comments, this is a publicity stunt OmahaBlueDog Dec 2013 #45
I like to look at her. n/t leeroysphitz Dec 2013 #46
Other: Git off my lawn! Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #47
Other - where can i get Spirochete Dec 2013 #48
disgusting ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2013 #49
It's looks as if it's mutually consensual behavior MrScorpio Dec 2013 #50
Juvenile (watch me blow your minds! No! Watch me!) Warpy Dec 2013 #51
I dunno. She's spent the better part of this year laughing all the way to the bank. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #52
Well, the poor thing can't sing and she can't dance Warpy Dec 2013 #54
She can't stop Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #55
Here recent hit song was the first Miley Cyrus song I can bear listening to penultimate Dec 2013 #78
and she had already made a billion dollars hfojvt Dec 2013 #83
Definitely in poor taste, but not "offensive" Quantess Dec 2013 #53
The fact that she offends so many people is why I like her. PeteSelman Dec 2013 #57
Well if she's good for anything, then maybe it's that... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #111
She should be smoking a joint with Santa, B Calm Dec 2013 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #106
I call it an example of her only real talent. NM_Birder Dec 2013 #59
Well, maybe sour grapes by you..... Logical Dec 2013 #87
Logical,........... money does not = quality. NM_Birder Dec 2013 #94
I find it a clownish play for attention... HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #60
Who is the chick? bemildred Dec 2013 #61
Hannah Montana, Disney Kid Star NoOneMan Dec 2013 #82
Ahhh, Lindsey Lohan redux. nt bemildred Dec 2013 #120
I find the "skankification" of womanhood offensive. It's got nothing to do with Santa. Vinca Dec 2013 #62
Skankification. Egg-zactly. n/t BellaKos Dec 2013 #65
I think I'll have to come up with entirely new words. BellaKos Dec 2013 #63
Offensive, no. Trying too hard. Yes n/t Blaukraut Dec 2013 #64
It does seem that way. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #69
Offensive? No Aerows Dec 2013 #66
No, it's not offensive. HappyMe Dec 2013 #67
Trashing Squinch Dec 2013 #68
It depends on the setting and circumstances etherealtruth Dec 2013 #70
Miley seems fixated riverwalker Dec 2013 #71
meh, just another stupid meme Javaman Dec 2013 #72
Sort of Meh...I can think of lots of female singers who went the sexy route and are....well sexier Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #73
Indifferent. penultimate Dec 2013 #74
I find it stupid. TransitJohn Dec 2013 #75
Unsexy. Untasteful NoOneMan Dec 2013 #77
All I can say is ... HO HO HO!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #79
Not really, but I do think she is kind of gross treestar Dec 2013 #80
That is a Clear Channel sponsored event RandiFan1290 Dec 2013 #84
Not offensive, but it is pretty sleezy. Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #85
Sad. Pathetic. Trying too hard. MADem Dec 2013 #86
nice slut shaming everybody. Feel better about yourselves? liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #90
Pointing out that you think something is tasteless is "slut shaming?" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #108
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together otherone Dec 2013 #91
The APA Task Force Report On The Sexualization Of Girls Zorra Dec 2013 #92
then parents shouldn't allow their young children to watch the VMAs. There is always liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #95
It's not just the VMA's. It's everywhere. Zorra Dec 2013 #98
But for some that is what sexuality is. It's not an illusion or parody for some young people. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #102
If the MSM had not shaped much of her sexuality, would high heels still be who she is? Zorra Dec 2013 #109
There is nothing wrong with that being part of who she is so I don't care where she got it. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #121
That's the important thing. The problem many girls/women have is never being pretty enough, Zorra Dec 2013 #147
Very well said, Zorra. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2013 #158
I think this is why women get disgusting catcalls on the street. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2013 #96
This should be pretty simple to understand.... jberryhill Dec 2013 #155
Nonsense. Waiting For Everyman Dec 2013 #157
No, and I don't blame anyone if they do find it offensive. Iggo Dec 2013 #97
Not offensive. Trashy and dumb. Boring and stupid. mokawanis Dec 2013 #99
I just don't get it... Do people actually pay to go see this? Taitertots Dec 2013 #100
Offensive. No. Sexy. No. Trashy. Yes. onenote Dec 2013 #101
Offensive? pipi_k Dec 2013 #103
I also find it sick and... Little Star Dec 2013 #104
No. H2O Man Dec 2013 #105
Question. Does she want me to look at her or not? grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #107
A representative has responded that while she generally wants everyone to look at her for sustained grantcart Dec 2013 #110
Gladly! she's rather gross, imho. Link needs a "Warning Graphic" tag, lol grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #112
Heh jberryhill Dec 2013 #153
No - for fucks sakes, let Santa have some fun this year! Baclava Dec 2013 #113
That's the greatest ever! Glassunion Dec 2013 #114
Well.. in a way I do find this horribly offensive... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #115
No more so than Duck Dynasty mn9driver Dec 2013 #116
Lewd. moondust Dec 2013 #117
hope they both have their shots arely staircase Dec 2013 #118
Is that the War on Christmas Foxnews is always talking about? Rex Dec 2013 #119
Y'know... there is supposed to be a vast neutral area between cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #122
He's pretending to 'do her from behind' Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2013 #124
i think it's mostly boring JI7 Dec 2013 #125
yes, you post that you're offended by this CreekDog Dec 2013 #126
You're the one that Skip Intro Dec 2013 #138
No. But I can see why you've made the error CreekDog Dec 2013 #142
Lie about it as usual, CreekDog, Skip Intro Dec 2013 #146
it doesn't change that the only racism you complain about here is against whites CreekDog Dec 2013 #156
Should have been Miley PEGGING Santa Ken Burch Dec 2013 #127
meh. pop stars are provocative. I've often found when they are resorting to this, it's kinda because LaydeeBug Dec 2013 #128
Hey wait a minute ...> YOHABLO Dec 2013 #129
Carlin said it best jdadd Dec 2013 #130
Other: Sexualizing Santa drives the creep factor up exponentially MindPilot Dec 2013 #131
Ah, parody sakabatou Dec 2013 #132
She needs a new move, this one is getting old. n/t Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #133
Agreed. Myrina Dec 2013 #137
How about "in poor taste?" malthaussen Dec 2013 #134
Next: bare ass naked sex on stage ...without a condum... L0oniX Dec 2013 #135
Boorish. Juvenile. But I'm not offended. maced666 Dec 2013 #139
No. It's a desperate attempt for some attention. GoCubsGo Dec 2013 #140
I find it arousing. nt politichew Dec 2013 #141
Anything Justin Bieber does, I find offensive ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #143
I like Miley because she pisses so many people off. kwassa Dec 2013 #144
When are this no-talent's five minutes of fame up? AngryOldDem Dec 2013 #145
She's 21. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #151
Yes because Miley is a talentless hack. N/t alp227 Dec 2013 #148
imo Miley is like the house guest that has started to stink... polichick Dec 2013 #149
Is "waste of time" an "Other" or a "Pass" nt fadedrose Dec 2013 #150
Not offensive Flatpicker Dec 2013 #152
No, not offensive... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #159
I am offended that such idiocy is actually popular Doctor_J Dec 2013 #160
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