How did "creeps" and socially awkward men become conflated?

[DanTex]

71. There are at least two such examples in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4222821
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4223847
And there's also a Radiohead song about it.

One reason there probably aren't more posts about it is that men are probably hesitant about coming out and saying "I'm awkward and ugly and women call me a creep not because I'm harassing them but because the thought of them being with some scrawny weirdo like me probably gives them the creeps." That's not the kind of thing that our society encourages men to come out and talk about.

Here's another observation based on personal experience. For the most part, actual sexist creeps do not care about being called creeps. Men who treat women like sex objects don't get offended by stuff. They don't care. In fact, in a way even the MRAs are less sexist than true sexist pigs, because they actually care what women think.

This is why posts like Scorpio's accomplish nothing, except to alienate people who are already not harassing anyone. There are very few men who outwardly treat women like pieces of meat just because the have poor people skills. What can men do to fight harassment and sexism? Next time you're (not you you...) in a locker room or bar or football game or whatever, and some jerk starts making sexist comments, don't laugh, and don't pat the guy on the back, instead tell the guy to stop. That's what non-sexist men can do to help. Stop making it "cool" to disrespect women.