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kpete

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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 03:28 PM Dec 2013

Conclusive Evidence: The NSA's expanded powers NEVER protected us from any terror plots. [View all]

The War on Terror's Jedi Mind Trick
National-security officials insist new violations of privacy are essential for keeping Americans safe from terror—but there's no evidence the programs have stopped any attacks.


JULIAN SANCHEZDEC 23 2013, 4:49 PM ET

A Republican-appointed judge and President Obama’s own handpicked Surveillance Review Group both came to the same conclusion last week: The National Security Agency’s controversial phone-records program has been of little real value to American security. Yet its defenders continue to insist that it is necessary, clinging desperately to long-debunked claims about foiled terror plots. Their stubbornness fits a decade-long pattern of fear trumping evidence whenever the word “terrorism” is uttered—a pattern it is time to finally break.

Since the disclosure of the NSA’s massive domestic phone-records database, authorized under a tortured reading of the Patriot Act’s Section 215 authority to obtain business records, intelligence officials and their allies in Congress have claimed it plays a vital role in protecting Americans from “dozens” of terror attacks. But as the expert panel Obama appointed to review the classified facts concluded, in a report released Wednesday, that just isn’t true.



“Our review suggests that the information contributed to terrorist investigations by the use of section 215 telephony meta-data was not essential to preventing attacks,” the report found, “and could readily have been obtained in a timely manner using conventional section 215 orders.”




In other words, instead of vacuuming up sensitive information about the call patterns of millions of innocent people, the government could have followed the traditional approach of getting orders for specific suspicious numbers. As for those “dozens” of attacks, the review groups found that the NSA program “generated relevant information in only a small number of cases, and there has been no instance in which NSA could say with confidence that the outcome would have been different without the section 215 telephony meta-data program.”


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Thank You For Sharing The Facts cantbeserious Dec 2013 #1
Yes, but how dare anyone tell the American public that. Aerows Dec 2013 #2
How dare they tell our enemies? Security is a lot about head-fakes HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #3
Security/our government, is NOT supposed to 'head fake' its own people by spying on them. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #5
I'm just say'n you can bet this is likely where the NSA's argument lies. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #8
If an organization remains unchecked Aerows Dec 2013 #6
Yes, very true. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #12
Liberals were right, again. I remember a few months ago when we questioned just how sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #4
Prevent, maybe not, but it certainly makes sweeping up suspects' associates effortless. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #7
The NSA looks like it is run Aerows Dec 2013 #10
When the IRS takes all that money...it must be spent on something HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #13
And it is high time Aerows Dec 2013 #14
Well, really, we can WANT to cut off it's funding, but HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #15
Here is what I think Aerows Dec 2013 #16
Yes, getting out in front of blackmail is good. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #17
No, it doesn't, did you read the article at all? It has done NOTHING to catch terrorists, and that sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #22
I'm totally sick of the idea that Snowden harmed security Aerows Dec 2013 #9
Well, since the terror plots Turbineguy Dec 2013 #11
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #18
k&r n/t RainDog Dec 2013 #19
Kick and R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #20
K&R hoping it doesn't get lost in the gender war n/t hootinholler Dec 2013 #21
Lol, we shouldn't let it, because a lot of those distractions seem to appear when important issues sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #23
Hey Nice to see you! hootinholler Dec 2013 #24
Thank you, hope you have a great holiday season also. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #25
An Act of Congress cannot constitutionally nullify the Constitution in whole or in part, no matter indepat Dec 2013 #26
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