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11 Bravo

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226. You couldn't outrage me even if you were coherent and intellectually honest.

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:50 PM

Dec 2013

Outrage was picking up pieces of my friends and placing them in bags. Outrage was telling a platoon mate to point his weapon away from a young Vietnamese woman, or I was going to fuck up his entire day. Outrage was listening to my Mom after a promotion that was rightly hers was given to her supervisor's nephew. Outrage was watching my darling wife damned near bleed out on the floor of a Catholic hospital after one of her tubes ruptured during an ectopic pregnancy, and those bastards refused to preform a therapeutic abortion.
Outrage is NOT listening to some pampered twit who lacks the cognitive skills to make a coherent argument, and the verbal skills to understand that words have meaning. I sincerely hope none of this was too mother-fucking emotional for you. (Because you know how we guys can get.)

You have a Merry Holiday as well.

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If only a handful of feminists are responsible for all that ails DU [View all] BainsBane Dec 2013 OP

Done and done Hobo Dec 2013 #1

I always go into these debates filled with righteous anger. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #2

Yes, it's vicious kcr Dec 2013 #55

They sure didn't unify the site today, did they? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #3

You mean because I posted that Indian PSA in HOF and RQ did in GD? BainsBane Dec 2013 #4

Is a woman checking out a man's ass predatory behavior? nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #5

Depending on how it's done and how he feels about it BainsBane Dec 2013 #8

But she can't really know at the moment, I guess. Bonobo Dec 2013 #11

Good lord BainsBane Dec 2013 #16

Good lord, I didn't say it was. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #20

Why did you even raise the subject then? BainsBane Dec 2013 #27

They are most certainly on a continuum. Bonobo Dec 2013 #30

This began with an Indian PSA BainsBane Dec 2013 #34

Bonobo's not going to get it Scootaloo Dec 2013 #79

You did it again. "You ALL should have discussed with your fathers". 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #188

So some men should not learn from their fathers? BainsBane Dec 2013 #198

Correct, some men should not learn from their fathers. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #217

Wow. Talk about predictable. kcr Dec 2013 #244

oh for fuck's sake mercuryblues Dec 2013 #202

Your inability to comprehend the meaning of the word "all" is not my problem. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #213

and you ability mercuryblues Dec 2013 #222

I know kcr Dec 2013 #223

You couldn't outrage me even if you were coherent and intellectually honest. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #226

+1... I would venture to say that a majority of men on DU are the "good guys" SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #216

they are not lumped in. and many men do not feel lumped in. that would be your clue in, seabeyond Dec 2013 #234

I think it was pretty clear who BB was referring to. kcr Dec 2013 #221

Mr. Scorpio explains it perfectly BainsBane Dec 2013 #18

I've done it n a predatory manner, so yes Matariki Dec 2013 #12

If she's much larger than him, then yes. seattledo Dec 2013 #138

Plenty of ad hominim attacks, strawmen, and red herrings today. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #15

I can hardly blame you for that BainsBane Dec 2013 #19

I don't believe posting that India PSA was innocent either. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #37

I really don't give a fuck BainsBane Dec 2013 #42

I appreciated your post of the PSA theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #45

+1000 I got accused of adding flames to the gender war when I posted a piece about 1monster Dec 2013 #178

A PSA airing on Indian TV is "not innocent?" What is it, guilty? Squinch Dec 2013 #48

Right. The conversation has been distracted away from the idea of imagining treestar Dec 2013 #63

And it seems that some on DU are quite horrified by the possibility that those leers being reflected Squinch Dec 2013 #71

Yep, it's probably men who know they do that sort of thing treestar Dec 2013 #74

My favorite: Squinch Dec 2013 #76

This isn't India. What is your point? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #22

The point is the context of the PSA that upset a few around here today BainsBane Dec 2013 #26

If you believe that stuff is only a problem in India, you are so very sadly mistaken. redqueen Dec 2013 #87

Oh but we're supposed to be grateful that we xulamaude Dec 2013 #103

Seriously. redqueen Dec 2013 #110

That was a doozy, wasn't it? Whisp Dec 2013 #132

As someone who has no personal problems with you or any of the feminists on the board... Shandris Dec 2013 #50

Exactly so tkmorris Dec 2013 #53

Well by all means, don't speak about the PSA, criticize those you agree with boston bean Dec 2013 #100

Obviously being offended at someone's uppity attitude is more important than the issue at hand. redqueen Dec 2013 #172

Consider it a matter of principle... Shandris Dec 2013 #191

+2 ..... oldhippie Dec 2013 #143

Exactly right n/t mokawanis Dec 2013 #167

you mean good will to all BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #58

Really? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #65

Really. You left out 51% BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #91

I was quoting a lyric to a Christmas song. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #109

Sorry, I missed BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #128

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The Great Pumpkin brought it back BainsBane Dec 2013 #7

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Well it certainly has picked up dramatically BainsBane Dec 2013 #14

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You didn't miss the attempted flame out? BainsBane Dec 2013 #21

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Here BainsBane Dec 2013 #24

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OMG...that THREAD! HOF is communiss! PassingFair Dec 2013 #144

How did I miss that one?! xulamaude Dec 2013 #162

wasnt that a pretty disgustingly offensive Op and thread. and i was told to not take it personally. seabeyond Dec 2013 #171

So what you are saying is: Ignore others, it is easy. huh. Have you tried that in real life? The Straight Story Dec 2013 #9

I do it all the time BainsBane Dec 2013 #13

Ignore just leads to dupes.. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #25

'Thank you BainsBane Dec 2013 #29

I've never put anyone on ignore dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #31

Merry Christmas to you as well, dipsydoodle! BainsBane Dec 2013 #32

Why ignore? Too much fun! Love ya:) grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #33

+1 CFLDem Dec 2013 #51

This is an odd debate. It has plenty of merit, but the lines are so gray in my opinion. wyldwolf Dec 2013 #35

I've been that 8 yr old girl BainsBane Dec 2013 #36

they usually haven't done anything 'wrong.' wyldwolf Dec 2013 #38

You do hit on something interesting The Straight Story Dec 2013 #40

good points wyldwolf Dec 2013 #41

It doesn't happen divorced from context. KitSileya Dec 2013 #46

Blurred lines MostlyAmused Dec 2013 #54

IT could depend on her experience treestar Dec 2013 #56

Did you watch the PSA? BainsBane Dec 2013 #44

I did and I know exactly where you're coming from wyldwolf Dec 2013 #47

"But when you're a dad, every man is suspect." xulamaude Dec 2013 #64

In jail for looking at a little girl that way? Are you nuts? HERVEPA Dec 2013 #164

I assume anyone who leers at little girls BainsBane Dec 2013 #186

That is an incorrect and I believe ridiculous assumption HERVEPA Dec 2013 #219

Clearly they are pedophiles BainsBane Dec 2013 #220

My post was in response to men who looked at kids a certain way. HERVEPA Dec 2013 #243

In what context? treestar Dec 2013 #57

In MY context wyldwolf Dec 2013 #60

You mean you can't help it? treestar Dec 2013 #61

Sorry, 'science' is not a defense, it's a fact wyldwolf Dec 2013 #66

I'm denying that people have to stare at strangers who aren't enjoying it treestar Dec 2013 #68

ok, I'm with you on some people not enjoying being looked at... wyldwolf Dec 2013 #70

best of both worlds and easy answer. see her as a person. if she is interested, you would actually seabeyond Dec 2013 #84

why would you suggest it is evo when in fact, from a young boy culture taught you it was your right seabeyond Dec 2013 #77

no. HERVEPA Dec 2013 #165

lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #169

If there are trolls, they would have a wonderful time fostering these fights. Festivito Dec 2013 #39

I have most of the MRAs from the He-Man's Group on Ignore, and it's made a huge Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #43

Someone just lost their alerting priveleges for 24 hours ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #242

Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #245

I am still trying to figure out why ... etherealtruth Dec 2013 #49

It's not the thoughts that are being expressed ....... oldhippie Dec 2013 #52

Like the way they were expressed in the PSA? xulamaude Dec 2013 #62

I never saw the PSA ..... oldhippie Dec 2013 #72

Then maybe you should watch it - xulamaude Dec 2013 #75

Why or if they were "rightfully" offended .... oldhippie Dec 2013 #81

Yeah. Far out. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #86

Far out? oldhippie Dec 2013 #90

Old Hippie?? xulamaude Dec 2013 #93

Yep, though I believe ol' Maynard .... oldhippie Dec 2013 #101

i am done with this old. too many people are doing just what you did. creating an animosity toward seabeyond Dec 2013 #88

Yes ma'am! oldhippie Dec 2013 #98

you did the exact thing with this post. it is all about creating a hateful caracture to dismiss seabeyond Dec 2013 #106

HEY? IS YOUR SHIFT KEY BROKEN? xulamaude Dec 2013 #114

ya know. cant argue, go to this. so silly. obviously i have no desire to shift. seabeyond Dec 2013 #119

That may be true sometimes etherealtruth Dec 2013 #111

Thank you for a civil reply ..... oldhippie Dec 2013 #121

So sick of the this fucking tone argument. JTFrog Dec 2013 #131

Well, gee, thanks ....... oldhippie Dec 2013 #139

I make no apologies for women who stand up JTFrog Dec 2013 #145

You don't need to make apologies on behalf of women. You need to apologize for your own behavior. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #176

a consistent argument from people that are anti feminism tell us... if we would use a different tone seabeyond Dec 2013 #179

I will not apologize. JTFrog Dec 2013 #227

Yeah, I was pretty sure it wasn't in your character to apologize for being boorish DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #228

not that you actually addressed the issue that i pointed out to you. so you can better understand seabeyond Dec 2013 #229

My purpose was to let the other poster know they were being rude for no good reason DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #231

when tone is used as a dismissal of ones voice, and we know what it as used as, seabeyond Dec 2013 #232

Merry Christmas, seabeyond. nt DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #233

thank you. and the same to you and yours. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #235

There was very good reason. JTFrog Dec 2013 #236

Merry Christmas, JTFrog. nt DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #238

Part of the problem is that a slogan is no reason to stop using common sense. stevenleser Dec 2013 #241

If we ignore, that means you can brow beat the new posters and non-ignorers unchecked NoOneMan Dec 2013 #59

Nag, nag, nag... xulamaude Dec 2013 #67

brow beat? please quit with the insults. seabeyond Dec 2013 #89

If I had a better word, I would use it NoOneMan Dec 2013 #92

it is a caricature that is being continuously created of us women. we are allowed opinion, thought seabeyond Dec 2013 #96

"created by us" could be more accurate NoOneMan Dec 2013 #99

suspects? choice of words. and do post where i name call or personally attack. i address the issue seabeyond Dec 2013 #108

Yep. The Usual Suspects. Its a great pop-culture movie. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #115

Ah, the lack of context xulamaude Dec 2013 #117

ah nooneman, i am done. i give in good faith, and then the game begins. have a happy holiday. seabeyond Dec 2013 #120

You too! NoOneMan Dec 2013 #122

Brow beat, hectoring, harping, hen-pecking, .... oldhippie Dec 2013 #113

you would be incorrect. man hater is accepted. i have been called it by at least 5, 6, 7 seabeyond Dec 2013 #123

No, you would be incorrect .... oldhippie Dec 2013 #125

the link goes to "that is not your message". and good. i am glad to hear. thank you. but, no seabeyond Dec 2013 #129

Oops redqueen Dec 2013 #141

seems to be two different posters. though i am glad to see that poster finally get one of his posts seabeyond Dec 2013 #146

Nope, sorry, that wasn't my post ..... oldhippie Dec 2013 #148

Yeah, I thought you posted that other one, mea culpa. redqueen Dec 2013 #151

I thought that was kind of strange also ..... oldhippie Dec 2013 #161

#6 sounds like on your side, hit wrong button. i would like to see your post. jsut saw another seabeyond Dec 2013 #154

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #159

Brow beat: daring to challenge privilege BainsBane Dec 2013 #192

I was more referring to redundant, tag-team shout downs NoOneMan Dec 2013 #194

Oh, so the problem is that more than one woman disagrees with you? BainsBane Dec 2013 #195

So yeah, you keep making up things I say and Ill just reciprocate NoOneMan Dec 2013 #197

Oh dear. I spoke out of turn again BainsBane Dec 2013 #199

Your behavior has nothing to do with you being a woman NoOneMan Dec 2013 #200

Oh, so you say the say thing in all the NSA threads BainsBane Dec 2013 #201

If the shoe fits, Ill call it out NoOneMan Dec 2013 #203

Really. Are you among that group? BainsBane Dec 2013 #205

With all due respect, wargle bargle NoOneMan Dec 2013 #206

right, I do recall your saying telling someone BainsBane Dec 2013 #210

Yes, it was. I do not think people should cower in the face of prejudice. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #212

This OP had a simple message BainsBane Dec 2013 #207

Its not that simple. You cannot define acceptable behavior and responses for people NoOneMan Dec 2013 #211

The word you are looking for is "Bully". RC Dec 2013 #196

Thank you. That is exactly the issue NoOneMan Dec 2013 #218

Why is there even a controversy about feminists? LWolf Dec 2013 #69

based on my limited knowledge of the threads in question (there have been many) wyldwolf Dec 2013 #73

Limited knowledge, indeed. xulamaude Dec 2013 #78

I think that's a little off. Squinch Dec 2013 #80

One man once told me LWolf Dec 2013 #82

It's actually not treestar Dec 2013 #85

that is what the argument devolved to because it is much easier for SOME men to derail seabeyond Dec 2013 #94

some NoOneMan Dec 2013 #107

yes. because i gave you and others more credit to be honest, than what you obviously deserved. seabeyond Dec 2013 #112

I appreciate that NoOneMan Dec 2013 #118

i think it is dishonest. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #124

Women don't communicate clearly. Marr Dec 2013 #174

actually the opposite. saying women is not saying ALL. you know it. i know it. seabeyond Dec 2013 #175

At best, it's ambiguous. Marr Dec 2013 #183

They chose to make it about that BainsBane Dec 2013 #193

I'm not sure there i NoOneMan Dec 2013 #83

Define feminist for us "disruptors" "claiming" to be feminists, xulamaude Dec 2013 #97

To state that people claim to be feminists doesn't state they are not in fact NoOneMan Dec 2013 #102

Wut? Um, no thanks. xulamaude Dec 2013 #104

Do you tell people you "take Obama at his word" when he says he's an American? Squinch Dec 2013 #134

Is Obama an anonymous internet poster with patterned behavior of disruptive e-fights? NoOneMan Dec 2013 #135

The controversy isn't about feminisim per se Mopar151 Dec 2013 #105

Maybe. LWolf Dec 2013 #185

you walk into someones sand box, be respectful. i do when walking into another. not respectful, seabeyond Dec 2013 #189

Ignore? No way. rrneck Dec 2013 #95

so, you manner in addressing is to create a false caricature to paint a group of women in an seabeyond Dec 2013 #116

Liberals are all about cultural change. rrneck Dec 2013 #130

you create what you want to argue. one can also argue that we have been thru all this in the past, seabeyond Dec 2013 #136

I'm sure you're aware of how HoF was created rrneck Dec 2013 #157

the Op says if you do not like us, ignore us. that is nothing to do with banning, nor changing the seabeyond Dec 2013 #170

Why would I want to ignore someone who so desperately wants to be heard? rrneck Dec 2013 #177

again, you were supposedly giving suport to your argument we want to change TOS and something else. seabeyond Dec 2013 #180

Happy holidays to you as well. rrneck Dec 2013 #182

Duck Dynasty's PREACHER PATRIARCH Phil Robertson: "A good woman is hard to find. Mainly because Zorra Dec 2013 #126

I just regret that we're dividing this house when we should be fighting the Republicans. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #127

Republicans want to control women and their bodies. JTFrog Dec 2013 #133

and you, woman. because i love you so. and have not heard your voice in so long... YOU... seabeyond Dec 2013 #140

Thank you sea. JTFrog Dec 2013 #142

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #149

You poor thing. JTFrog Dec 2013 #150

And yours. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #153

Does it make you feel better to tell me what to do? JTFrog Dec 2013 #156

It's a prediction, not a command. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #158

Hence all your posts on what JTFrog Dec 2013 #160

Are you or are you not A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #163

The war on men is obviously out of control. JTFrog Dec 2013 #166

LOL! xulamaude Dec 2013 #184

+1 NoOneMan Dec 2013 #137

Ah, the old 'More Important Issues' derailing tactic redqueen Dec 2013 #147

Funny you should mention rail. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #155

Because nothing is more important than alienating more men from the Democratic party. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #168

Alienating women does appear to be more important BainsBane Dec 2013 #208

I think it would be remarkable that "the behavior of some" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #215

when you stop creating our behavior into something it isnt, then i will take you seriously. and jeff seabeyond Dec 2013 #237

Would that be like the division around the NSA, Showden, Manning BainsBane Dec 2013 #187

But then I'd miss out on the delicious drama of the week n/t Kurska Dec 2013 #173

More fun than a barrel of monkeys. rrneck Dec 2013 #181

some of us actually do not see it as a game. and ya, we get it that for some, womens issue is a game seabeyond Dec 2013 #190

Or Trash your threads? 99Forever Dec 2013 #204

that works too BainsBane Dec 2013 #209

Yes it did. 99Forever Dec 2013 #214

There's way too much that ails DU for anyone or any one group to take full credit. Silent3 Dec 2013 #224

I agree, at least with the first part of that BainsBane Dec 2013 #240

I am a red blooded Notafraidtoo Dec 2013 #225

i am in love. i had to reread a couple times to make sure i was comprehending. seabeyond Dec 2013 #230

Thank you BainsBane Dec 2013 #239