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(8,562 posts) Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:24 AM Dec 2013

Here Is Edward Snowden's Christmas Message [View all]

http://www.businessinsider.com/snowdens-christmas-messgae-2013-12

Michael Kelley

Dec. 25, 2013, 6:39 AM

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden has given a short Christmas address, broadcast on the UK's Channel 4 news, from his temporary asylum in Russia.

The 30-year-old American is wanted for taking hundreds of thousands of classified documents and is credited for starting a necessary debate about government surveillance in the digital, post-9/11 world.

His basic message is against mass surveillance, and he goes full Orwell: "A child born today will ... never know what it means to have a private moment to themselves."

Here's the transcript:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/snowdens-christmas-messgae-2013-12#ixzz2oUr5gFxp

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Here Is Edward Snowden's Christmas Message [View all] babsbunny Dec 2013 OP

And very well said! RKP5637 Dec 2013 #1

This is ProSense Dec 2013 #2

Why is it ridiculous? The part that says 'privacy matters' or the part that says children born sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #3

No, ProSense Dec 2013 #4

Not absured at all FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #6

It's absurd. n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #10

"methinks he doth protest too much" niyad Dec 2013 #13

Well that settles it, although a blue link would have sealed the deal. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #38

50 years ago it would have seemed cartoonish and hyperbolic for someone to say sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #7

Are you ProSense Dec 2013 #12

He doesn't need to be prophetic to read the writing on the wall. There are huge profits sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #18

Now ProSense Dec 2013 #23

Your last line, priceless! nt sheshe2 Dec 2013 #71

Perhaps not. Mom and Dad may post to social media about the blessed event... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #99

The only substance you're going to get in response NuclearDem Dec 2013 #15

The Rule of Law: 1. If the facts are against you, argue the law. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #20

+1 burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #36

+2 bvar22 Dec 2013 #88

Well said, ET n/t Aerows Dec 2013 #111

"Substance": ProSense Dec 2013 #29

More about Glenn Greenwald and Snowden's characters and methods. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #39

"I never said I was a diehard fan of either of them..." ProSense Dec 2013 #44

Given the uproar and the administration's own attempts to reign in the NSA NuclearDem Dec 2013 #85

"The ACLU certainly did at least." Here: ProSense Dec 2013 #86

Funny how you use a libertarian Youtube channel to make your point. zeemike Dec 2013 #50

So ProSense Dec 2013 #53

Speaking of checkbooks, OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #57

LOL! ProSense Dec 2013 #58

Greenwald doesn't have the same authority as the POTUS, now does he? OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #63

So ignore the point about Greenwald? n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #65

Journalists get paid to write. OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #67

Got it: It's OK to sell out for money if you're a "journalist." ProSense Dec 2013 #69

Got it: It's OK to protect torturers and criminal telecoms if you're a "Democrat." OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #70

I made no such case. You, however, justified a "journalist" selling out for money. n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #76

If you have displayed any criticism for Obama's actions OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #83

Prosense, your time would be much better spent if you ignored your stalkers. And I'm serious Number23 Dec 2013 #103

Back in days of Joe McCarthy some thought it was important for such nolabels Dec 2013 #21

I have never seen anyone despise a person so much. Wow, do you have a hard time admitting... Logical Dec 2013 #73

Again: ProSense Dec 2013 #81

"WTF? LOL!" And I quote, in it's entirety, the original content from your link. Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #8

More gibberish: ProSense Dec 2013 #14

Ignore her... Logical Dec 2013 #74

Words ProSense Dec 2013 #91

LOL, you mean like this one..... Logical Dec 2013 #102

Yes, it is BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #26

Fuck Snowden.. HipChick Dec 2013 #5

He's probably more popular than the Queen around the world. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #9

Is One Expressing Disgust Or Desire cantbeserious Dec 2013 #30

LOL, classic no answer. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #75

With dead Cha Dec 2013 #92

Was he sitting by the fireplace clutching a Taser? gulliver Dec 2013 #11

I wouldn't be surprised if 30 years from now he is sitting by the fire place in the WH giving the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #17

Talk about ProSense Dec 2013 #25

Cult of personality is definitely what gets presidents elected, don't you think? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #40

So you admit it? ProSense Dec 2013 #54

I stated a fact. It IS a fact, isn't it? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #112

Your loyalty to Snowden is admirable. gulliver Dec 2013 #27

Your Opinion Only - Others Would Disagree cantbeserious Dec 2013 #33

So you want to see him in prison for wrecking your country Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #37

There's no contradiction. gulliver Dec 2013 #56

Do you want to see Bush, who instituted these spying in prison, or just those who exposed the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #46

Bush can go to hell. gulliver Dec 2013 #55

"Some things are too big for jail." NuclearDem Dec 2013 #96

loyalty to ignorance is pitiable stupidicus Dec 2013 #59

I anticipated this response. gulliver Dec 2013 #72

There's a difference between police powers and economic regulation. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #97

nothing new there stupidicus Dec 2013 #115

Lol, there's that 'tactic' again. I would think that by now the pro sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #113

Actually my position on loyalty is no tactic. gulliver Dec 2013 #114

Whatever it is it could not be more misguided and just plain wrong. It doesn't matter who the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #117

An excellent message from a True American Patriot. 99Forever Dec 2013 #16

Here is the You tube for those that want to see it. zeemike Dec 2013 #19

It has been blocked from viewing in YouTube RC Dec 2013 #28

LOL! ProSense Dec 2013 #32

Censorship is funny? RC Dec 2013 #60

Who is responsible for this "censorship"? ProSense Dec 2013 #61

It happened because channel 4 wanted to keep control of their precious video. RC Dec 2013 #64

No shit? zeemike Dec 2013 #45

yeah, the content provider blocked it itsrobert Dec 2013 #48

TVs that watch us? Oilwellian Dec 2013 #22

Is your TV watching you? Latest models raise concerns OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #87

That would be a really dick Move. Though I imagine it doesn't Kinect for some yet. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #93

Newer models can nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #94

Edward Snowden is right on. Glad he made this statement. To those snappyturtle Dec 2013 #24

They're not really private if you say them out loud. arcane1 Dec 2013 #35

Nice try. Nobody has claimed mind reading powers. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #41

Nevertheless, that's how "a private moment to themselves" is being interpreted arcane1 Dec 2013 #43

that is not what was meant. There was no argument made regarding mind reading. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #47

They are actually working on the reading minds devices nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #95

Creepy, and impossible. Nothing to lose sleep over. arcane1 Dec 2013 #100

You can tell the Stanford folks that they are engaged in impossible research nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #101

There's a huge chasm between that research and reading memories in court. arcane1 Dec 2013 #105

Unfortunately when they start doing things like this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #106

You'll have plenty of private moments in private. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #31

Yes sure, just make sure you are in a farraday field, have infrared sheilding, and Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #51

Cell phones use public infrastructure. I'm refering to face time. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #82

you aren't paying attention. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #89

Cell phones do not use public infrastructure. hootinholler Dec 2013 #90

shhh... Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #109

The real question in your scenario is hootinholler Dec 2013 #110

"Full Orwellian" but indisputably true. Nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #34

The guy is an fucking dumbass and his message is total bullshit. Scurrilous Dec 2013 #42

Perhaps you could be more convincing if... Oilwellian Dec 2013 #49

lol stupidicus Dec 2013 #62

LOL, like your post? Typical Snowden hater. Nothing but emotion! n-t Logical Dec 2013 #79

Today, we are all Snowdens. nt Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2013 #52

Merry Christmas, Traitor Eddie SoapBox Dec 2013 #66

Ahh, an NSA employee I assume. He kicked the NSAs ass. It was GREAT! n-t Logical Dec 2013 #77

well, as you can see, there was some real and/or percieved hyperbole stupidicus Dec 2013 #68

Someone should make A Venn Diagram bobduca Dec 2013 #78

lol stupidicus Dec 2013 #116

God Bless him for standing up for our freedom Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #80

Snowden gave the world a better gift than any found under a tree. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #84

+100! nt GliderGuider Dec 2013 #98

Channeling Julian Assange who had a widely derided Christmas message last year Number23 Dec 2013 #104

he sounds like a fucking idiot JI7 Dec 2013 #107

Buyer's remorse. randome Dec 2013 #108

"If it really wants to know how we feel asking is always cheaper than spying." yurbud Dec 2013 #118