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In reply to the discussion: Here Is Edward Snowden's Christmas Message [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)59. loyalty to ignorance is pitiable
or in the alternative, service to dishonesty is abominable, whether intentional or not.
I want to see him in prison for putting down our country and creating such a fuss over nothing,
If "putting down our country" alone is sufficient to justify incarceration, maybe we shoulda started that practice with MLK and ended it with Reverend "God Damn America!" Wright.
And I suppose it will have to remain a mystery as to why a judge would declare some NSA efforts unconstitutional, and BHO's own panel would call for changes, "over nothing".
Consider the events of the last two weeks. Judge Richard Leon of the District Court for the District of Columbia, a Republican appointee, held that the National Security Agencys massive metadata-collection program likely violates the Fourth Amendment. (To my students: In the procedural posture of this case, likely violates is a lawyers code word for @#$%ing-A right it violates!) A few days later, the presidents advisory board recommended significant reforms to the extent and structure of the same programs. The tech sector, civil libertarians, a Republican judge, Americas foreign allies, and, I suspect, the vast majority of the American people, now agree that government surveillance has overreached. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/how-obama-can-save-his-legacy-by-reining-in-the-security-state/282568/
As I've noted and argued from the beginning of all this, none of the attacking the messenger efforts are gone erase BHO's slate in terms of his role and responsibility in this matter, but I do find it highly amusing that all those shrieking "absurd!!!" etc, here in this thread were the very same ones who mounted absurdly silly defenses of this from the beginning, the attacks on ES included.
The "over nothing" is hands down the most absurd of the defenses offered, and most refuted at this point, and should rightly serve as an accurate measure of the intelligence and integrity of those still clinging to it.
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Why is it ridiculous? The part that says 'privacy matters' or the part that says children born
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#3
Well that settles it, although a blue link would have sealed the deal.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2013
#38
50 years ago it would have seemed cartoonish and hyperbolic for someone to say
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#7
He doesn't need to be prophetic to read the writing on the wall. There are huge profits
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#18
Perhaps not. Mom and Dad may post to social media about the blessed event...
WorseBeforeBetter
Dec 2013
#99
Got it: It's OK to protect torturers and criminal telecoms if you're a "Democrat."
OnyxCollie
Dec 2013
#70
I made no such case. You, however, justified a "journalist" selling out for money. n/t
ProSense
Dec 2013
#76
Prosense, your time would be much better spent if you ignored your stalkers. And I'm serious
Number23
Dec 2013
#103
I have never seen anyone despise a person so much. Wow, do you have a hard time admitting...
Logical
Dec 2013
#73
"WTF? LOL!" And I quote, in it's entirety, the original content from your link.
Luminous Animal
Dec 2013
#8
I wouldn't be surprised if 30 years from now he is sitting by the fire place in the WH giving the
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#17
Cult of personality is definitely what gets presidents elected, don't you think?
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#40
Do you want to see Bush, who instituted these spying in prison, or just those who exposed the
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#46
Whatever it is it could not be more misguided and just plain wrong. It doesn't matter who the
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#117
That would be a really dick Move. Though I imagine it doesn't Kinect for some yet.
NuclearDem
Dec 2013
#93
that is not what was meant. There was no argument made regarding mind reading.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2013
#47
You can tell the Stanford folks that they are engaged in impossible research
nadinbrzezinski
Dec 2013
#101
Yes sure, just make sure you are in a farraday field, have infrared sheilding, and
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2013
#51
Channeling Julian Assange who had a widely derided Christmas message last year
Number23
Dec 2013
#104