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Showing Original Post only (View all)You know the statement "Women own 60% of US wealth" is just MRA idiocy, right? [View all]
Women own 60% of the nations wealth.I see this obviously ridiculous statement often, even here on DU. It is usually used to support a claim that women are no longer at a financial disadvantage to men, and should therefore just quit their damn complainin. (for example, see responses here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101225112850AAqpcMx)
But a stroll through the interwebs shows this idea to be just a silly urban myth with no statistical support, and with many different versions, depending on who is talking.
Some sources, dating from 2005 to 2007 said that women WOULD own 60% of the wealth by 2030 if a certain set of unlikely events occurred. Some sources said they would own 60% of the wealth by 2025, some said women already own that much of the wealth of Great Britain, but, again, no sources backed up the information. Many said a new study shows that women own 60% of the nations wealth but none of these identified the study.
Heres a thread from an MRA discussion board from 2007 where a poster asks the question where did the claim that women own 60% of the nations wealth originate? He asks because he made the claim on a website and was being required to back it up. All the poor MRA dears looked and looked, but they couldnt find any source for the claim. http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-main/i-need-proof-women-own-more-wealth-north-america-3522.html
Many of the references to the statistic were worded to say that women control most of the wealth, which led me to what I think is the true origin of the myth:
It is a fact that women make about 60% of CONSUMER SPENDING decisions in the US (about 4.3 trillion) according to advertising industry information and government data. Which means that women usually buy the clothes, the groceries, the household services, and are usually the decision makers on furniture and appliances purchases, etc.
But saying that women are responsible for 60% of household spending decisions is a far cry from proving that women control or own 60% of the wealth in the country. After all, women probably made most of the household spending decisions in 1955, too, and no one is stupid enough to say that is proof that women in 1955 owned most of the nations wealth.
Here is a summary of another possible source. It has some statistics that might be the ones being tortured in order to come up with the idea that women have 60% of the wealth. http://www.immersionactive.com/resources/50-plus-facts-and-fiction/ The thinking seems to be that baby boomers own about 60% of the nations wealth and women outlive men by an average of 5 years, so therefore someday all the baby boom men will die at the same time, and the baby boom women will own all of that 60%... or something... Which is patently ridiculous on too many fronts to count.
Here are some actual facts: in 2012, women still made 77 cents per dollar made by men. Women still vastly outnumber men in the poorest segments of our society, women are greatly under-represented in the wealthiest segments of society, and women are far less likely than men to have retirement savings, thus women are more likely to face destitution in their old age.
So isnt it time we tossed this idiotic MRA talking point into the trash?
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You know the statement "Women own 60% of US wealth" is just MRA idiocy, right? [View all]
Squinch
Dec 2013
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She has an enormous amount, so do Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and the Koch Brothers
Bjorn Against
Dec 2013
#16
The 77 cents figure is not a useless talking point to express outrage. It is from the US Census
Squinch
Dec 2013
#18
I guess I could try shrieking if it makes it more fun for people. But my throat is a little
Squinch
Dec 2013
#24
I believe that we were talking about the fallacy of the statement that 60% of American
Squinch
Dec 2013
#26
0% Jeff- really? I know you used to float this 60% of wealth bullshit, so I'm
bettyellen
Dec 2013
#172
it's hilarious after I posted my reply about QEII, I saw your post above with graphic
Pretzel_Warrior
Dec 2013
#15
And that's in rich USA. Worldwide, the UN claims that women have only 5% of cash, 1% of property
ancianita
Dec 2013
#40
The UN keeps the most sweeping data on how women lose the war men wage against them.
ancianita
Dec 2013
#46
So we'll have to use your 2002 numbers so we are both talking about the same thing.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#53
By categories, I mean the breakdowns into for example "below zero and above 500000"
Squinch
Dec 2013
#124
OK, looking at the fourth link you referred me to, if we assume, as has been posited in this thread
Squinch
Dec 2013
#156
But it also shows that 19% of men over 65 are own more than 500,000, compared to 11%
Squinch
Dec 2013
#163
I think this deserves its own post: you misread the data in coming up with your 55.6% number.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#175
Women do live longer on average. Is there more that you wanted to say about that?
Squinch
Dec 2013
#48
Where is the backup to support your claim that wealth of widows is large enough to make
kcr
Dec 2013
#74
And if you read hfojvt's post you will see he makes a large number of unsuported assumptions
intaglio
Dec 2013
#108
And if they have sons, when they die 5 -10 years later at the age of 70-80 it goes to sons...
boston bean
Dec 2013
#114
yeah, when speaking of earning potential, we don't usually include inheritances.
boston bean
Dec 2013
#115
Most of the sources that seemed to be thinking about actual wealth, though, and not
Squinch
Dec 2013
#136
A) Then Ann Romney is penniless? B) The power of money is in spending it, not earning it.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#59
Recognizing this list of men as sole controllers just panders to the patriarchial norm
NoOneMan
Dec 2013
#96
Yep. And even if you keep scrolling down the list, the overwhelming majority are men n/t
kcr
Dec 2013
#91
I think Feminism is just too difficult for the average person to understand.
Notafraidtoo
Dec 2013
#94
It wasn't really VATech saying it. It was the marketing company "MarketingZeus"
Squinch
Dec 2013
#122
I was at a job for three years and accidentally found out that a single, just out of college male
boston bean
Dec 2013
#131
Yes, and it is done to confuse the issue and make it seem like there is no disparity.
boston bean
Dec 2013
#154
They get away with saying that because anti-women bigotry is normalized here on DU.
Starry Messenger
Dec 2013
#155