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263. I don't know if you've been reading what I've been writing

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:13 PM

Dec 2013

But I haven't made any commentary concerning Senator Warren and the prospects of her running or not running. From the beginning I've been trying to ascertain the logic behind not stirring a pot and choosing any D, as if the D is what makes them worthy, and not their policies. You continue to evade and attack, for absolutely no reason other than you are clearly a Hillary shill and a Warren hater.

That's fine. Neither one of them is my first or last choice. But I can assure you of this, if George W. had a D by his name and people wanted Obama to run against him and he said no, you would shill for W. I would not.

And that's why I asked in my very first post whether you think much. Because it takes no thinking to vote for the D, regardless of policy. And this is why the D policy is virtually I distinguishable from the R policy on most core issues.

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"Common" Dreams....stirring the pot, they just can't help it. MADem Dec 2013 #1

You say "stirring the pot" as if that was a bad thing. It's way past time to stir the pot. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #9

When EW campaigns for HRC, heads are gonna explode up in here. MADem Dec 2013 #10

No heads will explode whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #14

Coulda fooled me. MADem Dec 2013 #17

I probably won't vote for HRC whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #26

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Any D will do? WowSeriously Dec 2013 #38

You're just sooooo coooooool, with all that snark-n-such! MADem Dec 2013 #45

Tell me the benefits we had with the Max Baucus D. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #137

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You can do what you want--vote as you please. Pull the lever for Christie or Rand Paul, for all I MADem Dec 2013 #187

I'm sorry. I don't understand what you just said. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #205

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Only someone who hasn't been paying any attention would believe that MADem Dec 2013 #266

I'm here to advocate for the policies of the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #270

Excellent! bvar22 Dec 2013 #273

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Good one Titonwan Dec 2013 #244

That's my theory as well. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #252

<Yawn> whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #39

Do what you want. MADem Dec 2013 #44

I didn't play that whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #49

Like the Obama partisans didn't throw HIM under the bus, either, when he didn't satisfy their every MADem Dec 2013 #54

Not sure if you can grasp this, but here goes whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #58

Oh, ok--now I'm "stupid"--unable to "grasp" things. MADem Dec 2013 #60

If it plays out as you desire whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #64

Oh, gee, if I keep tryin' real hard, maybe I'll figure it out. It's just so hard an' all, I need MADem Dec 2013 #66

Glad to help whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #68

I'm quite sure you are. nt MADem Dec 2013 #74

Party Partisan doesn't mean D or Die. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #138

It does mean being fair in one's characterizations, which this hit piece isn't. MADem Dec 2013 #140

If the idea were to elect Democrats in name only ... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #147

The TOS is pretty clear. MADem Dec 2013 #150

This isn't the kind of money raised for the progressive�. MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #152

The candidates who -- with the exception of Al Gore, who wuz robbed-- get the most votes MADem Dec 2013 #156

AFIC, supporting Democrats bvar22 Dec 2013 #274

FDR had no problem violating the Constitutional rights of US citizens based on their race. MADem Dec 2013 #278

The article isn't about Hillary. It's really about Warren versus the establishment. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #282

Good take whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #290

Yeah, that's why the title of the article is MADem Dec 2013 #295

Hillary is arguably the single most representative person in the Democratic establishment. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #301

Well, that's POTUS's State Department, if we're going to get technical. MADem Dec 2013 #344

No doubt there. Sadly, Hillary and Obama have more in common with each other than they do... NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #345

I don't know about that. I think they're closer than some here want to admit. MADem Dec 2013 #347

Are you really going to argue that environmental stewardship is some radical far left position that TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #34

No - I am "arguing" that this article is pure horseshit. MADem Dec 2013 #37

BUT in TRUTH it DOES...or you wouldn't be trying to diffuse the Facts.... KoKo Dec 2013 #82

What "facts?" That HRC isn't in public life now, that she was subordinate to the POTUS and MADem Dec 2013 #86

"...subordinate to the POTUS and didn't make energy policy?" KoKo Dec 2013 #92

Only someone who doesn't "get" how it works would think that a SECSTATE isn't subordinate to their MADem Dec 2013 #99

Hillary is a strong Woman she survived Monica Gate...her Husband was President KoKo Dec 2013 #192

If you don't understand that the job of cabinet officials is to execute the POTUS's policy, I can't MADem Dec 2013 #194

You deserve a freaking medal. Good Lord, just READING this hysterical exchange has made me tired Number23 Dec 2013 #238

Ha--thanks! MADem Dec 2013 #264

um.... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #385

You gotta do better than that....ooooh the "Utah Minutemen!!!" MADem Dec 2013 #387

Interesting that they are trying to sell Clinton as "eight more years of the status quo". nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #259

Yes and no - in diplomacy with other countries, he has to make offers acceptable (and pre approved) karynnj Dec 2013 #275

Keystone merrily Dec 2013 #174

You'll have to wait until she selects her cabinet to know, I suppose. nt MADem Dec 2013 #181

No, I know now. merrily Dec 2013 #183

Time will reveal all.... nt MADem Dec 2013 #190

And I assume you would support her no matter who she selected for her cabinet. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #260

I do think she'll make good choices, but I'd not be afraid to criticize a bad pick. MADem Dec 2013 #268

Yes if you think Clinton is liberal then we disagree on the definition. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #280

I think she's a moderate--like Elizabeth Warren is--on most issues, and liberal on others. MADem Dec 2013 #286

I will be glad to "whack" anyone that supports the Patriot Act. Why do I single her out? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #292

Well get busy, then--you've got 97 more souls to beat to a pulp. MADem Dec 2013 #294

They are not running for president, but Goldman-Sachs-Clinton is running for president. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #296

Well, you said you'd be glad to whack them, and now you change your mind and single out just one. MADem Dec 2013 #308

You keep changing the focus. But I will gladly clear up how I feel about the rhett o rick Dec 2013 #311

No, not really, I just posted a list of everyone in the Senate during the vote in question. MADem Dec 2013 #321

Kennedy and Wellstone both voted NO. They didnt bow down to King Georgie and kiss his ring. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #328

No they did not. Go to the link and have a look at the YEA beside their names. MADem Dec 2013 #330

Sorry I was talking about the vote to authorize the war. Somewhere we rhett o rick Dec 2013 #338

Well, there's another false characterization of me. Why do you do that? MADem Dec 2013 #339

I agree it was rude. I try to not slip into that. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #341

It would seem there is daylight there on the issue, seems to some in critical areas TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #276

Well, that's just not true, but good effort, there. MADem Dec 2013 #287

You really think plausible deniablity is going to fly with someone as well known as Hillary Clinton? TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #297

Throw Joe Biden under the bus, too, then. How dare HE be a "good soldier!" MADem Dec 2013 #300

I said not a word about Biden but I don't much think we are debating his positions TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #313

Biden was on that stage with both HRC and POTUS--how soon we forget! MADem Dec 2013 #322

You are veering into distortion, you brought up Biden and are now bringing up Obama TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #326

No I'm not. MADem Dec 2013 #327

So what? I still didn't mention them and I am angry because of your distortions and putting words in TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #363

Wow, what a run-on ramble that was, too! FULL of personal insult, too! MADem Dec 2013 #370

Good posts. It is interesting that people are trying to sell Clinton as "possibly not as bad rhett o rick Dec 2013 #342

People like to lie about HRC. The Paulbot crowd, especially, gets rabid about her. MADem Dec 2013 #351

She accepted $400,000 from Goldman-Sachs and she isnt even running yet. HMMM. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #364

You still haven't provided any links. MADem Dec 2013 #367

So you've resorted to name calling. I guess by calling those you disagree with "haters" you rhett o rick Dec 2013 #373

If the shoe fits, you go wear it. MADem Dec 2013 #374

Ah man. It's graft when any of them do it. Speeches by politicians are a common and rhett o rick Dec 2013 #375

Funny how you only protest when SOME do it, though..... MADem Dec 2013 #376

I'm thinking weirdo con job, a lame attempt to coral the left without doing or even saying anything. TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #362

This message was self-deleted by its author NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #281

She won't campaign for HRC in the primary. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #85

If there's a primary, at least one of any consequence. MADem Dec 2013 #98

support for military families is a separate issue from supporting a big war budget. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #108

You can favor a strong military and not be an endorser of waste... MADem Dec 2013 #113

Yes they have served, and served well, but this didn't serve feminist ends. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #130

Yes, "those women." I wonder if they're any relation to the "You people" I'm often MADem Dec 2013 #143

I meant nothing at all like "you people"-it was simply a way to denote a group. No slur at all. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #236

But "those women" can't be feminists, you've declared. MADem Dec 2013 #258

I wasn't calling soldiers warmongers and you know it. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #265

I hear beeping. MADem Dec 2013 #267

I am not sure they are all that separate. merrily Dec 2013 #202

I am aware that the conservatives of the Party have control and I suspect that Clinton will win the rhett o rick Dec 2013 #88

I don't support people who create dramas and fake catfights amongst hardworking Democratic MADem Dec 2013 #105

You sound arrogantly certain that it will be HRC. Why? Ken Burch Dec 2013 #111

"Arrogantly certain?" Well, that's getting off on the right foot, there! MADem Dec 2013 #115

She knows that the big money is on Clinton. Clinton/Christie or Christie/Clinton the banksters rhett o rick Dec 2013 #365

There you go again! nt MADem Dec 2013 #368

I dont doubt for a minute that Sen Warren will support the Democratic nominee. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #112

I answered that question--do you want me to cut and paste my answer? nt MADem Dec 2013 #117

Yes plez. I apparently missed it. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #119

Here you go. MADem Dec 2013 #121

Pot stirring is a journalistic speciality, not a leftist "issue." merrily Dec 2013 #177

I can undestand that as a political decision Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #170

Well, if you think you'll get a better deal from her opponent, go on ahead and withhold that vote. MADem Dec 2013 #172

Nope, Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #245

You've laid out what she's "not" going to do before she has even taken the oath. MADem Dec 2013 #246

The Clinton track record of center-right political Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #248

How amusing (and telling) that you conflate her husband's record with hers... MADem Dec 2013 #250

The Clintons, Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #426

Do you think that Hillary cares at all about the environment? JDPriestly Dec 2013 #239

Yes, I do. MADem Dec 2013 #269

What is her position on reigning in Wall Street's excesses? JDPriestly Dec 2013 #277

That would be "reining" and we'll have to wait and see who she appoints as Treasury Secretary and MADem Dec 2013 #279

But Hillary would never appoint Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #299

So glad you've got the "inside scoop" on what HRC might do. She told you this, I suppose? MADem Dec 2013 #305

Creepy and personal? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #331

Do you always "ride to the rescue?" Or are you making a 'personal' exception, here? MADem Dec 2013 #334

I really don't need a re-pasting of what I already commented on. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #337

Since you didn't apparently read it the first time, I think you might. At least go back and re-read MADem Dec 2013 #340

Way past time to "stir the pot." Agree... KoKo Dec 2013 #11

Agreed. Phlem Dec 2013 #133

"Stirring"? daleanime Dec 2013 #19

But don't cha know Phlem Dec 2013 #134

Yes. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #56

I dont see that the lower classes have a chance. Ironically Citizen's United will rhett o rick Dec 2013 #89

I wonder what Hillary will do under Citizens United that she did not do in 2008, merrily Dec 2013 #173

I think the big money would rather see Clinton as the nominee than others. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #195

Maybe, but that is a different from the point I was trying to make. merrily Dec 2013 #200

"But we could simple refuse to vote for people who use Citizens United as a convenient excuse. " rhett o rick Dec 2013 #206

I agree about campaign money swaying voters, but that was true before Citizens United as well. merrily Dec 2013 #215

If you really believe that treestar Dec 2013 #253

Does "stirring the pot" challenge your precious status quo? rhett o rick Dec 2013 #256

Discussing principles implies they have them... bobduca Dec 2013 #262

Conservative Democrats were Republicans before the Party left them. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #283

Why do you miss the point? treestar Dec 2013 #291

Not all Democrats are on the side of the lower classes. The Lieberman Wing rhett o rick Dec 2013 #293

Sometimes, the pot must be stirred, Autumn Dec 2013 #41

Well, the writer of that piece of crap put garbage in a pot. MADem Dec 2013 #42

Thank goodness for trash thread. Try it, you might like it. Autumn Dec 2013 #43

Sounds like YOU might be more in need of it than I am.... MADem Dec 2013 #55

I think the article is absolutely great. It hit's on all cylinders with me. Autumn Dec 2013 #63

It "hit's" (?) on a desire by some people--for reasons which are not always magnanimous-- MADem Dec 2013 #65

Two strong, smart women with differences. Not a bit of harm in Autumn Dec 2013 #69

She hasn't said she's not running, either. MADem Dec 2013 #76

Well when she does announce, people can get behind her. Autumn Dec 2013 #77

The people trashing HRC on this thread have no intention of getting behind her. MADem Dec 2013 #79

A trashed thread can't be derailed bobduca Dec 2013 #251

Odd that so many of us disagree with your sentiments. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #52

Ahhh, Might (on a single thread the day after Xmas) makes Right, you're saying? MADem Dec 2013 #53

Putting words in my mouth? Enthusiast Dec 2013 #57

You're the one that brought up numbers--not me. MADem Dec 2013 #59

I will never again support sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #81

So, you're levying a personal insult at me, and calling ME --who worked to get Warren elected-- MADem Dec 2013 #107

Working to get Warren, rather than Brown, elected Senator does not mean one merrily Dec 2013 #175

Well, gee, part of Brown's "schtick" was his "crossover appeal" to DINOs and Indys. MADem Dec 2013 #179

Your reply doesn't refute the content of my post. merrily Dec 2013 #182

The content of your post doesn't apply to me. How can I "refute" a suggestion, slyly made and MADem Dec 2013 #209

Huh? merrily Dec 2013 #212

Go back and read your words in 175. Not sayin'...but just sayin'.... nt MADem Dec 2013 #221

Because saying your argument is flawed does not = saying you are a DINO. merrily Dec 2013 #224

What argument? That I worked to elect EW to the Senate? MADem Dec 2013 #230

A Democrat working to elect any other Democrat does not necessarily merrily Dec 2013 #232

And saying I worked to get EW elected wasn't an argument...so there we are. nt MADem Dec 2013 #233

I didn't call you anything, but sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #257

Sure you did--let me quote you, just so everyone is clear: MADem Dec 2013 #261

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Clinton supporters can be smug because they side with the big money. She has rhett o rick Dec 2013 #91

Well, when EW supports Clinton, will you throw her under the bus? nt MADem Dec 2013 #101

If Clinton loses to Christie, who will you blame? Ralph Nader? nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #118

She won't lose. nt MADem Dec 2013 #122

In 2012 Obama ditched the left to woo the moderate conservatives (Centrists, The Third Way'ers, etc. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #129

Christie is a vengeful bully. He'll have to beat back Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, too. MADem Dec 2013 #165

Nasty comment? To say that you side with the big money? Clinton is the BIG MONEY Democratic rhett o rick Dec 2013 #203

Cinton is the candidate with the most support. Most of her supporters, sorry to break this to you, MADem Dec 2013 #231

Yes some choose Wall Street and some choose the 99%. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #90

So, when EW supports Clinton's run for the Presidency, what percentage will she be supporting? MADem Dec 2013 #103

She would be supporting the Democratic nominee and, sorry, but I wont throw her under the rhett o rick Dec 2013 #116

Don't be sorry--that's nice, that you will continue to support her and her choices. nt MADem Dec 2013 #120

Sen Warren has a Party obligation to support Clinton, I dont. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #123

So she has a gun to her head then? Like she did when she signed the Senate Women's letter? MADem Dec 2013 #151

I didnt say that. Those are your words. Do you think Clinton will be tough on rhett o rick Dec 2013 #153

You implied it with your words. MADem Dec 2013 #154

You think that Clinton, friend of Wall Street will appoint Sen Warren to rhett o rick Dec 2013 #159

Time will tell. MADem Dec 2013 #161

Oh please! Like READY FOR HILLARY is going to fund her campaign. Just last week she sympathized rhett o rick Dec 2013 #164

They're a great start--and they don't just represent cash, they represent committed voters. MADem Dec 2013 #171

If holding her accountable for her support of Georgie Bush's war means I've lost the rhett o rick Dec 2013 #199

I think the middle class will get a far better deal with ANY Dem than they will a Republican. MADem Dec 2013 #219

Crickets~ sheshe2 Dec 2013 #126

I will not. EW owes a lot to the Democratic Party. merrily Dec 2013 #188

many others do agree with MADem's sentiments Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #289

There is a tiny nugget of news wrapped in all that politicized verbiage: Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #87

Common Dreams Is The Best By Far billhicks76 Dec 2013 #211

Maybe EW believed the hype that HC was in first place fadedrose Dec 2013 #372

Signs point to NO on that one, sorry. MADem Dec 2013 #377

You say you are sorry? fadedrose Dec 2013 #378

I am saying, politely as I can manage, that you are mistaken. MADem Dec 2013 #379

Thank you for the lovely picture fadedrose Dec 2013 #380

It was part of a thank you/constituent mailer. Mine is on the fridge. MADem Dec 2013 #381

So you DO like Warren? fadedrose Dec 2013 #382

Do you think I would have busted my ass for her if I didn't? MADem Dec 2013 #386

No reflection on you or others who support her fadedrose Dec 2013 #389

You're just not gonna get your way on this. MADem Dec 2013 #390

Indeed nt XRubicon Dec 2013 #392

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No they aren't. MADem Dec 2013 #394

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It's not my opinion. MADem Dec 2013 #399

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Nothing funny at all. MADem Dec 2013 #403

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It's not an "outstanding liberal site" though. MADem Dec 2013 #405

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No, it's not. MADem Dec 2013 #407

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CYA is what you should have done before you started down this road. nt MADem Dec 2013 #409

Come back soon, again...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #410

Ha ha ha!!! I'll bet he just got those socks outta the dryer, too! nt MADem Jan 2014 #411

Wow your ignore list is getting big. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #395

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I have never put people on ignore. Makes life boring. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #398

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Well, you won't have to worry about that fellah. MADem Jan 2014 #412

Yes we nuked him in mirt. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #413

Happy New Year and many thanks to all you fine MIRTers! MADem Jan 2014 #414

And a great new year to you my friend. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #415

how dare she G_j Dec 2013 #2

I'm glad there's SOMEBODY in government minding the environment. immoderate Dec 2013 #3

Again Elizabeth Warren is on the correct side. RC Dec 2013 #4

With all this global warming just how much has the sea level risen in the last doc03 Dec 2013 #5

Totally the biggest issue, eh? truebluegreen Dec 2013 #36

I hear about the polar ice caps melting and how the sea levels doc03 Dec 2013 #72

Yes, there's a ton of flippin' evidence that sea levels are rising, truebluegreen Dec 2013 #166

What is your point? merrily Dec 2013 #191

NOAA - Not quite a foot since 1900, but that's a global average, with regional variations hatrack Dec 2013 #255

You've got to be kidding. /nt Marr Dec 2013 #333

Plenty of AGW effects are more dangerous than sea level rise NickB79 Dec 2013 #67

Thank you. You have way more patience than I do. truebluegreen Dec 2013 #167

Must make it tough for the apologists on this site to reconcilce their support of the biosphere's villager Dec 2013 #6

The names Sanders and Grayson are prominently missing... malthaussen Dec 2013 #7

That is interesting mimi85 Dec 2013 #28

Yes, that line-up Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 #145

K&R bahrbearian Dec 2013 #8

Only $70 bil in global damages over 50 years?? Beartracks Dec 2013 #12

+ A shit load! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #48

Climate science: check. Scuba Dec 2013 #13

Can a real populist beat a semi-corporatist? ErikJ Dec 2013 #15

Me too. NorthCarolina Dec 2013 #83

No one seems to believe me but: Utopian Leftist Dec 2013 #16

+1 daleanime Dec 2013 #20

+ 2... druidity33 Dec 2013 #71

Protesting? more like a tantrum bobduca Dec 2013 #247

That dude is a frothing maniac for $hillary n/t Titonwan Dec 2013 #249

Looks to me like Clinton has considered her options and chosen to side with the Wall Street rhett o rick Dec 2013 #95

+1 (nt) NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #110

+1,000! We don't know where "EW" is and how long she will stand KoKo Dec 2013 #148

To topple Hillary, Warren would also have to run for Pres. Not sure she will. merrily Dec 2013 #210

My God. I hope this woman becomes President. peoli Dec 2013 #18

I adore her also mimi85 Dec 2013 #29

Elizabeth Warren is our treasure. She does not asjr Dec 2013 #21

Since when is doing the right thing being at war? hootinholler Dec 2013 #22

Tar sands crude is being refined even as we speak mountain grammy Dec 2013 #23

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #47

Keep it up Elizabeth, there are not many we can count on any more. Paper Roses Dec 2013 #24

And another Inter-Democratic Party battle begins between Progressives and Corporatist DINOs. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #25

Sen Warren would have a tough battle against the big money of the corporate fascists. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #93

That hasn't stopped her yet. ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #97

Wow - just in case anyone wondered where Obama stands on the environment... polichick Dec 2013 #27

that is a completely unfair and biased article Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #31

in what ways? nt G_j Dec 2013 #32

Yeah, shoot the messenger. That'll change the facts. 99Forever Dec 2013 #114

I expect Common Dreams pisses you off bobduca Dec 2013 #272

no. I tend to laugh at their hackneyed and vitriolic (amateur) writing and analysis Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #288

In October Senator Warren did sign on to a letter encouraging Hillary Clinton totodeinhere Dec 2013 #33

SHHHHH!!!!!! Don't SAY things like that!!! MADem Dec 2013 #73

The Clintons are Charming People...are you warning us that Warren is just another Clinton KoKo Dec 2013 #96

Elizabeth Warren is a wonderful Senator for my state and she has pledged to complete her term. MADem Dec 2013 #100

You have the INSIDER SCOOP....And, Thanks for your reply KoKo Dec 2013 #142

It's not the "INSIDER SCOOP." Truly. MADem Dec 2013 #144

I don't watch Network or Cable TV...and THANKS for your Honesty! KoKo Dec 2013 #160

The article is about divide and conquer. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #131

Tell me about it. That's it, exactly. MADem Dec 2013 #149

We are both from Mass... sheshe2 Dec 2013 #155

They want to drag her onto a national stage and start playing the "war whoop" game all over again. MADem Dec 2013 #157

Focusing on a person, rather than on issues, is for the Bieber crowd. merrily Dec 2013 #189

merrily I say... you are correct! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #197

That is the title of the Common Dreams article. merrily Dec 2013 #201

I am not the one on DU focusing on Warren or Clinton. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #213

Gee, maybe the writer of that shitstain of an article cited in the OP should have taken that advice! MADem Dec 2013 #198

It's good advice for everyone. merrily Dec 2013 #204

Can you provide a link to the letter? MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #169

The letter that was supposed to remain secret? That would be hard. merrily Dec 2013 #186

A *secret* letter. Interesting. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #220

Beats me. All I know is what I read in the funny papers. merrily Dec 2013 #222

The actual letter has still not emerged publicly but there are multiple totodeinhere Dec 2013 #314

"We have no idea where she stands on anything aside from banking/Wall Street!!1!" bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #35

She also favors a strong military, and is an advocate for military personnel and their families. MADem Dec 2013 #109

Yes...I've read that she supports maybe more Military than I would vote for... KoKo Dec 2013 #162

It would be great (keep dreaming, I know) if we could stick the Koch suckers no outlet for their Dustlawyer Dec 2013 #40

I'm not too bright. But I suspect Elizabeth Warren Enthusiast Dec 2013 #46

"Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton" Hubert Flottz Dec 2013 #50

The thing that is important right now is the thing that gets her elected. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #51

More fake stories about 2.strong Democratic women highlighting a split msanthrope Dec 2013 #61

And whoooop--there it is! MADem Dec 2013 #62

I agree. This is an editorial, not an article OKNancy Dec 2013 #70

Divide and Conquer...yes it is! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #158

I hope Warren and the progressive dems prevail. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #75

Why is the target HRC when it says clearly that Obama is paving the way for approval NOW BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #78

As you point out...that got lost in the discussion.....and thanks KoKo Dec 2013 #84

Wow! What bullshit this headline is cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #80

Always read what's UNDER THE HEADLINE....Makes one Literate. KoKo Dec 2013 #94

I undid my rec of this story. I absolutely like Warren and her position on this is excellent. CreekDog Dec 2013 #102

There is an "actual fight" in the Democratic Party. 99Forever Dec 2013 #124

Speaking of misquoting, don't even say that I was denying the fight between liberals and centrists CreekDog Dec 2013 #125

I'm okay with that. A misread on my part. 99Forever Dec 2013 #127

thanks for saying. CreekDog Dec 2013 #132

Spot on! Phlem Dec 2013 #139

Indeed...and it's early for 2016 since we don't know ..yet how Obama will KoKo Dec 2013 #168

Indeed, so VERY much baggage, growing monthly w/every corporate "contribution"/bribe Divernan Dec 2013 #304

"Creek Dog" ..what do you have a problem with in the article? KoKo Dec 2013 #146

You unrecc'd Koko's DU post because of Eric Zuesse's Common Dreams title? merrily Dec 2013 #184

Are you saying i didn't read beyond the headline? CreekDog Dec 2013 #214

Not at all. As to you, I said (implied strongly) only that I don't understand merrily Dec 2013 #217

I think it's acceptable to unrec based on the wording of the headline vs. the article CreekDog Dec 2013 #234

Obviously, you think that because you said you unrec'd based on the title. merrily Dec 2013 #237

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #104

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #106

Uh-oh! Despite the denials, could we be looking at a Warren/Sanders, or Sanders/Warren ticket? Zorra Dec 2013 #128

You know that's the end of the Democratic party as we know it. Phlem Dec 2013 #136

Ending the party as we currenty know it would not be a bad thing dflprincess Dec 2013 #180

Who was the last liberal head of the Democratic National Committee? merrily Dec 2013 #207

That would Shake Up the Money Trees for Sure! KoKo Dec 2013 #176

Anything is possible, but I'd have a Plan B, just in case that merrily Dec 2013 #193

Why couldn't we have a plan B, C, D, E, F, G.... Phlem Dec 2013 #227

The more plans the better. I just wouldn't make moving the party left in the merrily Dec 2013 #228

Sorry I wasn't replying directly towards your content. Phlem Dec 2013 #229

If there is a candidate that I can enthusiastically vote for I will do it tularetom Dec 2013 #135

Warren is definitely not running. joshcryer Dec 2013 #163

So ...you believe Fracking and Heavy Tar Sands through Pipelines KoKo Dec 2013 #178

You could ask that same question of most Democrats in office today. merrily Dec 2013 #196

The corporate lobby is too powerful. joshcryer Dec 2013 #216

And whose fault is that? merrily Dec 2013 #218

What legislation would reduce the power in this situation? joshcryer Dec 2013 #223

I replied to the post you originally made to me. merrily Dec 2013 #225

I posed that as a possible piece of legislation. joshcryer Dec 2013 #226

No, why would you think that? joshcryer Dec 2013 #208

Nothing screams STATUS QUO! quite like a Clinton. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #235

Easy for EW to separate from Hillary the Corporatist DINO who pretends to look out for the little people while pocketin $300k+/speech from corporate fatcats. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2013 #240

Not just any corporate cash. Goldman Sachs. anti partisan Dec 2013 #241

Yup, you are spot on. Hillary is a corporate sellout, plain and simple. Surely, we can do better. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2013 #243

121 Recs and a lot of corporate whining. Good to see DU woo me with science Dec 2013 #242

Eye Popping bvar22 Dec 2013 #285

You're in the crowd that is "desperately clutching at Warren..." MADem Dec 2013 #298

MADem tiredtoo Dec 2013 #302

ALL you need to know about Hillary: bvar22 Dec 2013 #309

Wait a minute, you're using an Obama For President advocacy video to put down HRC? MADem Dec 2013 #319

....aaannnnnd, not a word about Hillary's advocacy for the Top 6%, bvar22 Dec 2013 #325

Aaaaaand....not a word about how the OP is a steaming load. MADem Dec 2013 #329

She rejected raising FICA taxes on those making over $97,000/year, her base. bvar22 Dec 2013 #332

You know you're grasping at straws. Here's an easily read link for you. MADem Dec 2013 #335

Video is FOREVER! bvar22 Dec 2013 #343

Yes, it is. MADem Dec 2013 #346

Like Obama, she also pledged to Renegotiate NAFTA. bvar22 Dec 2013 #352

Psst--she didn't get elected, so how's she supposed to do that? MADem Dec 2013 #353

Wow, what a tap dance. The issue here was what did Clinton say? She said she didnt want to raise rhett o rick Dec 2013 #348

Yes, what DOES she say about helping the middle class? MADem Dec 2013 #349

She may not run...she may throw support to Hillary if she's the Nominee... KoKo Dec 2013 #310

Some are beginning to think even without the tanks though.... think Dec 2013 #312

You mention Bernie.... MADem Dec 2013 #320

Oh...indeed I know about "HillPAC" and for years donated to "Emily's List" KoKo Dec 2013 #354

Peace back at you. MADem Dec 2013 #355

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Dec 2013 #315

Ahhh....but we have MORE FACTS at our fingertips and a long history... KoKo Dec 2013 #356

EW is gonna make a big difference in this world, and she's already started. MADem Dec 2013 #361

well....I can understand what you are saying with this... KoKo Dec 2013 #383

I have no problem with that at all. MADem Dec 2013 #384

Still...her Voice for Plain Speak and Honesty...is a Vision KoKo Dec 2013 #388

What people need to do is give her a few friends in the Senate and the House. MADem Dec 2013 #391

Wow. I go off to finish the War on Christmas and this is what happens when I get back? Rex Dec 2013 #357

GEEZE....Fox News is still pushing that "Old Meme?" KoKo Dec 2013 #358

Anyone that believes an ounce of what Foxnews pedals, well you know what I think Koko. Rex Dec 2013 #359

Sorry...that was a rude snark at you on my part. KoKo Dec 2013 #360

No thanks, I don't agree with PACs. Rex Dec 2013 #366

Uh, HILLPAC was disestablished. That was her PAC as a SENATOR, that she created to help MADem Dec 2013 #369

Might be time to send Warren a teeny donation fadedrose Dec 2013 #371

k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #401

I appreciate she is coming down hard against big oil ... ananda Jan 2014 #425