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Yo_Mama

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14. Misinformation in the graph
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:55 PM
Mar 2012

You can see the outlays planned for this fiscal year in the latest monthly Treasury report:
http://fms.treas.gov/mts/mts0212.pdf

From largest to smallest major categories:
HHS (Health and Human Services): 871 billion. (Includes Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP)
SSA (Social Security) 827 billion. (SS, DI, SSI)
DOD (Dept of Defense) 688 billion.
Dept of Agriculture 150 billion. (Includes food stamps, WIC = about 42 billion)
VA (Veterans Affaids) 129 billion.
Treasury (other, ex-interest) 129 billion. (IRS mostly)
DOL (Dept of Labor) 127 billion. (Includes training and unemployment benefits)
Dept of Education 98 billion.
OPM (federal government) 87 billion.
Dept of Transportation 84 billion.

There's plenty more, but the numbers drop off pretty hard fpr other categories. Total outlays for this fiscal year are expected to be about 3,795 billion. HHS plus SSA together are about 44% of the budget. DoD is 18%.

Personally I think we should be bailing out of Afghanistan and generally being less aggressive, but the graph is not showing the real budgetary picture. Our total deficit this year is going to be over 1 trillion - we could not spend a penny on DoD this year and still have a very substantial budget deficit. So far this year we have paid 191 billion on the national debt in interest. About half of the 450 billion figure is in reality not paid at all - that's interest credited in a book transaction to all the trust funds - SS, DI, HI, federal retirements, etc.

Du rec. Nt xchrom Mar 2012 #1
does this graph take into account medicare/medicade and tricare? Demonaut Mar 2012 #2
For one thing, can I point out, that if our government didn't foster truedelphi Mar 2012 #8
okay....didn't answer the question posted Demonaut Mar 2012 #10
I can't find a single pie chart graph or discussion on the sites truedelphi Mar 2012 #20
Graph isn't accurate lefty16 Mar 2012 #11
Forgot lefty16 Mar 2012 #12
So the health care, pensions, other spending and education in your numbers JDPriestly Mar 2012 #15
Do your figures cbrer Mar 2012 #19
Is Tricare listed under Health Care? Because it is really a military expense.n/a fasttense Mar 2012 #23
Well the graph clearly has Health expenditures on it. fasttense Mar 2012 #22
priorities Angry Dragon Mar 2012 #3
But what magnificent kill ratios we can achieve in our pre-emptive (PNAC-style) indepat Mar 2012 #4
George Carlin used to refer to war as the "bigger dick foreign policy at work" Initech Mar 2012 #6
Yup. Gotta keep everything in context. woo me with science Mar 2012 #29
Sheer madness, sheer insanity. The quality of life of the people sacrificed to feed the MIC indepat Mar 2012 #34
We'll bend over backwards to keep the fucking war machine happy.. Initech Mar 2012 #5
As long as war is profitable to banks and corporations, we will go to war. woo me with science Mar 2012 #18
I wonder what percentage of that $600 billion dotymed Mar 2012 #7
What isn't shown is the interest on this debt. sad sally Mar 2012 #9
Much of the War and War Machine budgeting is hidden as well. Ford_Prefect Mar 2012 #13
Excellent post. nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #16
Boy do I hear you. n/t truedelphi Mar 2012 #21
Misinformation in the graph Yo_Mama Mar 2012 #14
Social Security is self funded and this does not take into account the almost $3 Trillion in notes. fasttense Mar 2012 #24
As to your points Yo_Mama Mar 2012 #25
'..hole...' uponit7771 Mar 2012 #27
The MIC owns USA(tm). Rex Mar 2012 #17
We have a MIC no doubt and it's control is disproportionate at best uponit7771 Mar 2012 #26
Misleading, if that's federal spending thesquanderer Mar 2012 #28
Their goes the deficit, or does that only matter when our tax dollars midnight Mar 2012 #30
That is about half of what we spend on our military MadHound Mar 2012 #31
AMEN!!! n/t ejbr Mar 2012 #32
So this is why my elderly parents have no health care choices.... glinda Mar 2012 #33
K&R woo me with science Mar 2012 #35
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