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jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 01:38 AM Dec 2013

Purity tests. [View all]

Yes, I am taking the offensive on many unpopular posts, and taking the defensive on similar posts.

I have seen many “anti-Obama” posts declaring that he is screwing us with the TPP and the TIPP. The thing is, both of these negotiations are unfinished! How the hell can you claim to be against something when it’s not even decided? Also, most of these negotiations are secret. Which means “we don’t know shit”. But, many pundits claim to know everything about the negotiations.

There are some claims that it “by-passes” Congress. But Congress has to approve it. Even if it is “fast-tracked”, that only means that Congress has to approve the Trade Agreement “as is” and it gets an up or down vote. So, with a “fast-track” agreement that currently is NOT in place, the Congress is NOT allowed to add “poison pill” amendments. So, regardless of “fast-tracking” it all comes down to the Congressional vote. Repeat - TPP and TIPP must be voted on by Congress. Even in the case of Fast-Tracking.

Now, as for NSA spying - is it legal? Yep, our Congress made it legal in 2008. If you have a problem with it, then you need to take it up with Congress, NOT the NSA.

All of this just emphasizes to me how important it is that Democrats take back the House in 2014. If you disagree, then you are allowing the Republicans to take over. And we know what that has been like.

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