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In reply to the discussion: A question about the gender wage gap. [View all]Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)80. "completely misrepresenting the article"
"From the study: The AAUW report compared the earnings of men and women just one year out of college across various sectors of the economy. The[div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"] report controlled for different factors that tend to impact pay, including hours, job type, employment sector, and college major. The reportwhich uses the class of 2009 as its sample cohortfound that on average, women working full time earned [div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]82 percent of what their male peers earned. The average for all women, at all experience levels, is 77 percent, a number that has barely budged in a decade. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024235860#post65
From the study:
Graduating to a Pay Gap explores the pay gap between male and female college graduates working full time one year after graduation. You might expect the pay gap between men and women in this group of workers of similar age, education, and family responsibilities to be small or nonexistent. But in 2009the most recent year for which data are availablewomen one year out of college who were working full time earned, on average, just [div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]82 percent
http://www.aauw.org/files/2013/02/graduating-to-a-pay-gap-the-earnings-of-women-and-men-one-year-after-college-graduation.pdf
1/3rd of 18% = 6%
This study was conducted by feminists and if you read the fine print, shows the actual pay gap after controls are added is in the single digits (other studies show that it's lower). So not only have multiple people from this very thread cherry picked quotes from a feminist conducted study, they have misrepresented it by failing to show that the actual result is far lower than what they are willing to admit. Keep in mind also that this is the unexplained portion of the pay gap which even the AAUW admits may be due to things other than discrimination. "Gender discrimination is one potential contributor to the unexplained pay gap." (page 2)
This is what "completely misrepresenting the article" really looks like.
Cheers!
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The wage gap exists as an artifact of the greater cultural gender power structure.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2013
#2
Another question to ask might be why positions traditionally held by women pay less
Matariki
Dec 2013
#94
Sooo... people who seek careers in teaching or social work aren't primarily motivated by money?
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#101
It'd be interesting to see how investment bankers spend their leisure time.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#103
I find arguments that actually include arguments to be more compelling than "that's bullshit!".
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#72
I listed reasons for calling it bullshit. you choose to ignore them in your response
Pretzel_Warrior
Dec 2013
#74
It's a career that is open to women now. Why don't women choose to do it? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#79
Single, young, childless women earn 8% on average more than their male peers
Major Nikon
Dec 2013
#8
If you actually read your links you'll find it all comes from the same source which is the AAUW.
Major Nikon
Dec 2013
#32
When you read the fine print they state the aggregate difference of the unexplained portion is 7%
Major Nikon
Dec 2013
#38
You appear very heavily invested in believing that there is not gender discrimination
etherealtruth
Dec 2013
#46
If the almighty dollar was everything African Americans would not have the high
bettyellen
Dec 2013
#20
There's an even larger reverse gender pay gap between people of color starting out
Major Nikon
Dec 2013
#26
Tell me about it- completely misrepresenting the article is a desperate move.
bettyellen
Dec 2013
#40
I have had the privilege of overhearing a bunch of women discussing their female boss.
Nye Bevan
Dec 2013
#77
I know that I work in a predominantly male field ("a science and engineering" field)
etherealtruth
Dec 2013
#14