Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton

[MADem]

322. Biden was on that stage with both HRC and POTUS--how soon we forget!

And you're crabbing about how HRC "recently" (hello? That was two elections ago--a LIFETIME in political terms) ran for the Presidency....and if you think back, hard, now, you'll note that most pundits said the race was more about style than substance, that there was little daylight between the two candidates (three, if you want to include Biden--so there's where he comes in...and he's still working for POTUS, unlike HRC). Now you're pretending there's a huge gulf, there. Cough, horsepooey, cough.

Oooooh, Hillary (not Bill, Hillary) "founded the DLC." No, she didn't. What horseshit. Nice try, though--tell me, do you always ascribe the work of politicians to their spouses? Or is it just Hillary who gets this treatment? And your vague associations with "The Family" sound like shit ripped from the pages of Newsmax. The guy that runs that C street outfit is, in essence, a religious lobbyist, and that group has been associated with every administration since Eisenhower's. He's an influencer, and he knows a LOT of people. He runs the odd prayer group and that annual breakfast, which has had speakers from Bono to Mother Teresa (who, BTW, ripped both Clintons a new one for being pro-choice) at it. That doesn't mean that people who associate with these prayer groups or the annual breakfast are married to the organization.

If you don't want to get eye-rolls, don't say stuff that merits 'em. And stuff like that merits 'em. So yeah, C'MON MAN. Indeed.

And you clearly haven't been reading what I've written (AT ALL) if you think that I think that "Warren is a con." Where you got that, I've NO idea but it is straight outta thin air. Gee--I feel like I'm arguing with someone just like you describe in your last paragraph--you don't even bother to read what I say, and it shows. I have bothered to read what you've written, and I feel as though I am wasting my time, to put it bluntly.

Let me make my views on EW entirely clear to you, since you keep missing my point. She's my Senator and I worked to get her elected.

We like her and we intend to keep her. We've had six senators (Kerry, Kirk, Brown, Cowan, Warren, Markey) since Ted died, and we deserve a little stability. She's pledged to complete her term. She's said NO over two dozen times. She's not raising money, she's not meeting with national strategists or state operatives, she's refusing invitations to Beauty Contests like the Harkin Steak Fry, she's ducking the Sunday talkers and avoiding interviews unless they are about HER issues, and reporters from MA have the best shot at getting any of her time. So, in sum, I don't think she's a liar. I think NO means NO. Go find some other "savior" because she ain't it, she has said as much, and you'll just have to "get over it."