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bvar22

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19. Here is a taste of what happens when you "fight back" in a Democratic Primary:
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 03:38 PM
Dec 2013

The Arkansas Democratic Primary was a heart breaking eye opener for the Grass Roots and Organized LABOR. We were given a Look Behind the Curtain,
and it wasn't very pretty.

[font size=3]We did EVERYTHING right in Arkansas in 2010.
We did EXACTLY what the White House asked us to do to "give the President Progressives in Congress that would work with him."[/font]

We organized and supported Lt Governor Bill Halter, the Pro-LABOR/ Pro-Health Care challenger to DINO Obstructionist Blanche Lincoln.
Halter was:

* Polling BETTER against the Republicans in the General,

*was popular in Arkansas in his OWN right,

*had an Up & Running Political machine,

* had a track record of winning elections (Lt. Governor)

*Had the full backing of Organized LABOR and The Grass Roots activists

*was handing Blanche her Anti-LABOR ass in The Primary until the White House stepped in

*Blanche had NO chance of winning the General in Arkansas

Guess what happened.
Our BIGGEST enemy to bringing "change" to The Senate was NOT The "Obstructionist" Republicans.
NO!
The BIGGEST obstruction to bringing "change" to The Senate was The Obama White House!

The White House stepped in at the last minute to save Blanche's failing primary campaign with an Oval Office Endorsement of The Wicked Witch that Killed the Public Option,,
and Bill Clinton was dispatched on a Campaign Tour for Blanche around the state bashing Organized LABOR and "Liberals" at every opportunity.

White House steps in to rescue Lincoln’s Primary Campaign in Arkansas

"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln.

* Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure.

*Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests.

*The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln — a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just don’t have the votes for.

<snip>

What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face.

Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you. Obama’s support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"

<much more>

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/


When the supporters of Pro-LABOR Lt Gov Bill Halter asked the White House WHY they had chosen to throw their full support behind Lincoln at the last minute, rescuing her failing campaign, the answer was ridicule and insults to Organized LABOR and the Grass Roots.

Ed Schultz sums up my feeling perfectly in the following clip.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/ed-schultz-if-it-wasnt-labor-barack-obama-

After the Arkansas Democratic Primary, many Grass Roots Activists working for a better government concluded that the current Democratic Party Leadership preferred to GIVE this Senate Seat to a Big Business Republican rather than taking the risk that a Pro-LABOR Democrat might win it.
This was greatly reinforced by the Insults & Ridicule to LABOR from the White House after their Primary "victory" over Organized LABOR & the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.

Of course, as EVERYBODY predicted, Lincoln lost badly in the General Election, giving that Senate Seat to The Republicans.
So what did the White House gain by Stomping Down Labor and the Grass Roots?
We don't know.
The White House has never responded to our questions with an explanation, only insults and more ridicule.

But thats OK.
Chalk this one up to experience.
We will be back.
Union Thugs may sometimes have to take a Big Money Beat Down,
but we never forget a Sucker Punch.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their Promises or Excuses.

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What is wrong? [View all] kentuck Dec 2013 OP
Well..you know...political parties are only about winning elections. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #1
Yep. Oakenshield Dec 2013 #50
The same could be said about DU at times. L0oniX Dec 2013 #64
Hope and Change. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #2
That was a really helpful addition Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #4
I did. Not every post needs to scream like a chainsaw. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #8
+1 n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #13
+9 to make that an even 10. RC Dec 2013 #24
It was concise and to the point, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #47
Especially when some posts are chainsaws.nt Skidmore Dec 2013 #60
And I had always thought of it as a squeaky wheel. I like your analogy better. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2013 #72
The Demo Chris post was complete, and elegant in its simplicity. bvar22 Dec 2013 #17
Warren voted for the latest defense budget Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #54
So that makes it ok? Strange logic. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #74
It's a quick cred-building technique. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #62
You call fellow Democrats "haters" because they dont show the unwavering rhett o rick Dec 2013 #77
+1000 kentuck Dec 2013 #79
That is becoming so glaringly obvious that it hurts - it is all about the win, and right after the djean111 Dec 2013 #3
exactly. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #5
It's populism and common sense. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #6
Nothing is wrong with that - TBF Dec 2013 #7
Oh... we WILL cut our "defense" budget... Bigmack Dec 2013 #9
Here is a taste of what happens when you "fight back" in a Democratic Primary: bvar22 Dec 2013 #19
It happened here, too, Bvar22, in 2008. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #37
Thank You, Blue. bvar22 Dec 2013 #45
When I complained about the quality of Democratic politicians a poster A Simple Game Dec 2013 #73
Great post! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #42
Excellent post as usual, Bvar, it needs to be an OP as so many appear to develop anmesia sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #48
Great post. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #49
Reading this doesn't surprise me think Dec 2013 #51
Message to the left: We only want your votes, not your ideals and principles. L0oniX Dec 2013 #66
Now more than $20,000 a SECOND lake loon Dec 2013 #21
It's always about the money. Welcome to DU. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2013 #46
Welcome to DU. go west young man Dec 2013 #59
kentuck, What is wrong? saidsimplesimon Dec 2013 #10
Bernie Sanders "Military Budget Has Tripled Since 1997, ErikJ Dec 2013 #11
Yes we could cut the budget in half and should. former9thward Dec 2013 #12
I find that premise, "massive reduction in military forces," fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #20
Well, any cuts to spending will INVARIABLY be dumped on personnel Scootaloo Dec 2013 #76
I thought Congress appropriated the money for different military programs? kentuck Dec 2013 #80
And still our military is incompetent. broiles Dec 2013 #14
Our military is mostly there to break shit and kill people--and it's pretty competent at that. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #22
Oh? Don't you know ...they are fighting for our freedoms. L0oniX Dec 2013 #67
Very like that first attending to this... jtuck004 Dec 2013 #15
You're just another Goddam radical fringe leftist. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #16
What Is Wrong Answers - Right Wing, Corporatist, Oligarch Point Of View cantbeserious Dec 2013 #18
We should put you in charge of "something". Enthusiast Dec 2013 #39
Kick this post KansDem Dec 2013 #58
What is wrong with "What is wrong with" ... Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #23
The only two Democrats I can remember who came right out on a National Stage and said that bvar22 Dec 2013 #52
Don't forget Mike Gravel: Follow the money. L0oniX Dec 2013 #68
It seems that ProSense Dec 2013 #25
This vid needs to go viral, but at close to 4 minutes, I guess it's just too long. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #26
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Dec 2013 #29
, blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #27
when it comes to the democratic party establishment, losing has no adverse consequences. KG Dec 2013 #28
We did NOT win the cold war. The USSR just lost first. Scuba Dec 2013 #30
Well said. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #34
Our administrations, for some time now, have been perps, not just players. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #31
Plus one! Thanks for sharing that............nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #33
Excellent! L0oniX Dec 2013 #69
kentuck, it's populist common sense and it's the right thing to do for electoral success. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #35
The Treasury belongs to the ruling class, not the working class. That's why. nt valerief Dec 2013 #36
what's wrong: he who controls the media, the images, controls the culture. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #38
It's apparently wildly radical, Marxo-Commie-Satan ... common sense. DirkGently Dec 2013 #40
Bribery The Wizard Dec 2013 #41
We could easily cut the defense buget sulphurdunn Dec 2013 #43
Poor, poor kentuck...... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #44
what is wrong with it, as we all know, is that none of these ideas makes tptb any richer, any more niyad Dec 2013 #53
Does anyone else keep notes of their recent activity? fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #55
Nothing wrong, that's the truth, ruth... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #56
That, and common sense is something you have to work at. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #57
I'd say there is nothing wrong JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #61
That budget doesn't include nuke research or nuclear weapons upgrdes either. another_liberal Dec 2013 #63
In a just world criminals would be held accountable. ananda Dec 2013 #65
Where's all the usual anti left, corporate loving, centrist right responses and attacks? L0oniX Dec 2013 #70
The United States can still be the dominant military power Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #71
Some people just have slightly different priorities. raouldukelives Dec 2013 #75
I might quibble with the numbers but agree with the gist Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #78
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