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badtoworse

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38. Great questions. Here is how I would deal with them.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 12:59 AM
Dec 2013

The cop is the easy one; let's deal with him first - I would fire him for several reasons. LEO's are in a special class meaning they are subject to a higher standard. An LEO that uses the N-word has clearly demonstrated an inability to enforce the law in an unbiased way. On a practical level, this means I'd have to worry about innocent people being arrested simply because they are black. It also means that guilty people might escape prosecution because defense attorneys could point to his demonstrated bias as part of their defense. I'd worry about lawsuits with this guy. At the highest level, a person with such obvious prejudice does not deserve to be a police officer and could not be counted on to do the job I would expect. For that reason, he's gone.

The teacher is also subject to a higher standard, but I would need to hear the full, unedited text of his / her remarks to decide what to do. We never "needed" a black president and we don't "need" another one. We don't "need" a president of any particular ethnicity, but what we do "need" is a pesident that will lead the country honestly and effectively. If that was his point, I'm OK with it. On the other hand, if he was implying that the current or a future president is not or could not be effective simply because he's black, I'd have a big problem with that and would likely fire him.

The employee that believes the president should be assasinated is a bit more difficult. Obviously, it's unlikely that such an employee could actually act on such a belief, but if I thought he would, if he could, I would need to do something. The concern here would be antisocial behavior that might be exhibited in other ways - someone else being killed (maybe me). In any case, I'd consult with HR and legal and would watch that employee like a hawk.

In my experience, the decision to terminate someone is rarely undertaken without consulting the experts - HR and legal. In most cases, the fact that I might be offended by the employee'sopinion, would not be a consideration. There are exceptions and you pointed out at least two.

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But you're OK firing someone for what they think? badtoworse Dec 2013 #1
Phil Duckhead wasn't fired by the state or Federal government. Aristus Dec 2013 #3
Tell us something we don't already know. badtoworse Dec 2013 #5
Okay: the thought police are not employed or empowered by private corporations. Aristus Dec 2013 #6
They're free agents who can't deal with A&E's decision to keep Robertson despite their outrage. badtoworse Dec 2013 #17
Really? I take it you never ran a company before. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #19
I've had to fire 3 people in my career, but it was never about an opinion they held. badtoworse Dec 2013 #21
Would you have kept the teacher who told his student we don't need another black JaneyVee Dec 2013 #24
Great questions. Here is how I would deal with them. badtoworse Dec 2013 #38
bigotry is a bit more complex than disagreeing on what ben & jerry's flavor is best frylock Dec 2013 #27
I work for a small business. If I wanted to walk down the street Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #9
Absolutely correct. badtoworse Dec 2013 #16
I love how you throw out thought police, when ity has nothing to do with thought... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #14
He was stating his opinion during an interview.. badtoworse Dec 2013 #15
Actually, no one was screaming to have him fired. You fell for the victim card JaneyVee Dec 2013 #18
So what were the majority of posters here clamoring for? badtoworse Dec 2013 #20
Where do you see a majority clamoring for his firing? JaneyVee Dec 2013 #22
If they didn't want him fired, why the negativity about A&E keeping him? badtoworse Dec 2013 #23
It was more due to A&E's hypocrisy. JaneyVee Dec 2013 #25
I have no problem at all with bigots losing their jobs. morningfog Dec 2013 #26
No one is OK with that. Mariana Dec 2013 #30
It wasn't about what he thought. It was about what he publically said. enki23 Dec 2013 #35
It wasn't just that he thought it. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #44
Absolutely. Free speech means exactly what you said. badtoworse Dec 2013 #49
A&E is doing nothing more than pandering to the audience of that show.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #2
That's 3 minutes more than I have. I just assumed it was as at the same level as Honey Boo Boo. badtoworse Dec 2013 #4
Just about right. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #7
At least Honey Boo Boo doesn't hate gay people. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #41
I've not read the full text of Robertson's remarks badtoworse Dec 2013 #48
Is pandering to bigots ... GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #8
If it pays.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2013 #10
It's about Television. That's what it's about. Ron Green Dec 2013 #11
If we still had unions - TBF Dec 2013 #12
We do still have Unions, Duck Dynasty and other 'reality' shows are in part methods Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #29
Interesting analysis - TBF Dec 2013 #31
That is EXACTLY what reality shows are. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #42
as bad as what he said about gays, never forget hollysmom Dec 2013 #13
I like to post this piece from the SPLC that TBF Dec 2013 #32
21st century America pulling rest of America out of the 19th century, kicking & screaming. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #28
"A&E learned a valuable lesson from Phil Robertson ..." napkinz Dec 2013 #33
message to A&E ... napkinz Dec 2013 #34
+100000000 Jamastiene Dec 2013 #43
from beingliberal ... napkinz Dec 2013 #36
Thanks for all those graphics depicting the ugliness of one Phil Robertson, napkinz.. Cha Dec 2013 #39
thanks Cha napkinz Dec 2013 #46
A bioted racist hatin' pedophile. What comes out of Cha Dec 2013 #47
Not just bigotry. iandhr Dec 2013 #37
Exacty, iandhr.. phil is an Cha Dec 2013 #40
How many states operate under an "at-will employment" policy? 1000words Dec 2013 #45
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