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Showing Original Post only (View all)Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women? [View all]
anonymous asked:
Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
blackfoxx answered:
Mmm kind of did this topic on twitter this week so you if you want more you can check it out @tgirlinterruptd
But the answer is somewhere between no not necessarily but probably so. In that, a narrative of desire around trans bodies does not exist & in that absence one of degradation and shame is offered in its place. So automatically you have sexualities and accompanying desires shaped in a context of transphobia, which both excludes and pathologizes trans bodies as abhorrent.
A lot of male sexuality is also constructed around employing hierarchies of womanhood as trophies, to prove their own worth and engage in a process of gendering themselves through access to womens bodies. Within that framework, some hold more currency and others (transwomen) can actually subvert heteronormative male sexualities. The opinions and shared norms of sexuality among peers, performed on womens bodies, plays a huge part in constructing their sexuality as well. You can imagine where transwomen fall on this scale. Theres also the fact that most men dont even have enough literacy of our bodies and our lives to even know who we are and if they are attracted to us. And dont attempt to do so because of cisnormativity.
With that being said, we live in the world we live in. If a man chooses not to date a transwoman, whatever the reason, that is his choice (though one probably informed by cisnormativity.) I am however concerned with if, in not dating transwomen, he also reinforces cissexism and transphobia in his words and actions. Everything is not for everybody nor does it have to be (even though ironically transwomen seem to always get the short end of this stick hmmm.) But what are men doing to not actively continue & participate in this cycle of shame around transwomens bodies? What are they doing to stop putting our lives at risk? How are they discussing our bodies and lives? In choosing not to date us, are they offering up bioessentialist rhetoric and trying to delegitimize/undermine our genders?
So basically, cisnormativity heavily informs our desires. We should all work through that. If in working through that, you still dont find yourself attracted to transwomen? Then thats fine, but what are you doing to create & not participate in a society that shames & degrades the concept of desire around transbodies?
I wont make a blanket statement and say that ANY many who doesnt date transwomen is transphobic. But I will say that we live in a transphobic and cissexist society. And that most men ARE transphobic and cissexist. And all of those things shape our desires and sexuality.
http://curvellas.tumblr.com/post/71492289830/is-it-ignorant-transphobic-for-a-straight-man-to-not
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Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women? [View all]
MrScorpio
Dec 2013
OP
believe it or not, Jerry Springer has covered this topic quite well over the past two decades
snooper2
Dec 2013
#104
Somehow, I never considered Jerry as an educational authority on the subject. nt
MrScorpio
Dec 2013
#105
There's still the sensationalistic "Look at the freak!" aspect to it. But increasing visibility
nomorenomore08
Dec 2013
#109
The articles answer is very good. A bit wordy, even for -my- tastes (which is...
Shandris
Dec 2013
#9
As someone else posted up thread who you end up attracted to is in some ways out of one's control
Arcanetrance
Dec 2013
#21
being that it is just a date, how would one necessarily know that the person they are having a date
notadmblnd
Dec 2013
#24
Offensive. I'm trans and I guarantee you couldn't tell if you bumped into me at the grocery store.
MillennialDem
Dec 2013
#79
IMHO People can have their preferences about what kind of people they want to date
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2013
#26
not much i would think in the dating sense, we could not force someone to find someone hot
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#33
Who knew that Boehner was Black. He could really use that to his advantage.
madinmaryland
Jan 2014
#117
i would say no more than any other dealbreaker that people have on who they date
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#31
Men and women should have the right to decide who they want to date, without accusation.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Dec 2013
#48
And even if a "straight" guy was sexually attracted to a transgender woman or a gay male....
AZ Progressive
Dec 2013
#56
The whole idea that there is something likely wrong with a person who is not attracted to what
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2013
#49
It's amazing-- the ease with which some people become the thing they claim to hate.
Marr
Dec 2013
#64
Perhaps life would be less complicated if similarity of interest and ideals is what sparked sexual
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2013
#93
Me as well, and I essentially dismiss anyone who uses that and similar terms. nt
Demo_Chris
Dec 2013
#102
Every large city has a few gay/transgender bars where straight men go to hit on transgender women.
Zorra
Dec 2013
#61
I think the question is if you found yourself sexually attractive and then after found out
boston bean
Dec 2013
#70
so, immediately that would make then unattractive to you. Just you knowing...
boston bean
Dec 2013
#72
yes, as a casual thing it would be a deal breaker same as a myriad of other things that could come u
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#73
simply put its not my thing, same as i never dated overweight people or many other groups.
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#75
I am not implying anything here... so please don't say that I am, ok.. when you read the below..
boston bean
Dec 2013
#76
Wouldn't that mean they had misrepresented themself?? That would be a hugh NONO
madinmaryland
Jan 2014
#118
I know your title doesn't say so, but the article does. Why does this have to be about men only?
MillennialDem
Dec 2013
#82
If you personally don't want to date a trans-person that's your personal choice.
icymist
Dec 2013
#91
Hay ITW I like your statement but I have to disagree in one small but crucial point...
Locut0s
Dec 2013
#96
Pre-op or post-op? Sorry to be so crude but that is important. I know some never get the surgery
nomorenomore08
Dec 2013
#110
Didn't the Kinks write a hit song about this a long time ago? Like 43 years ago?
kwassa
Dec 2013
#111