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ProSense

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Sun Dec 29, 2013, 01:26 PM
Dec 2013
I think it is reasonable to base temporary unemployment benefits off of wages. The idea here is to prevent a temporary loss of work from causing possible irreparable disruption to a family or individual. We don't want people losing their house or car because a factory closed, so we give them a little time to get a new job. However, the key here is temporary assistance.

Once we pass that temporary threshold -- whatever we decide that time limit is -- it's time to say that they are no longer collecting unemployment, and if they were middle class when they lost their job, perhaps a great deal of unemployment-- but welfare. Once we move beyond the temporary everyone, regardless of their previous income, should be treated the same.

..."temporary threshold" passed if the person remains unemployed? Are you proposing moving people from unemployment to "welfare"? Your point isn't clear.

That, and I think that there are not enough jobs for the number of people who need jobs. And that's a problem that no one in Washington is really talking about.

Again, Republicans are blocking any jobs bill: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024132016

Still, why can't benefits continue as long as the problem exists? If Congress doesn't pass legislation to stimulate job creation, the problem will drag on. In that case, do you think benefits should be cut off for the long-term unemployed?

I think we need to take care of everyone in this country. I don't think temporary unemployment extensions are the way to do it. We need a permanent long term solution, and everyone in this situation -- poor, middle class, or wealthy -- should be treated exactly the same.

Obviously a proposal like this wouldn't be popular with the formerly middle class worker who finds himself out of work and his career gone, but that situation is nothing new.

Huh? Unemployment is based on income, and everyone is treated the same...based on income.

You state that there needs to be "a permanent long term solution." What exactly are you envisioning? Also, why on earth wouldn't your proposal "be popular with the formerly middle class worker"?

I mean, that seems to imply that it would be "popular" among the "wealthy." Why? What are you proposing?

Also, given that you repeated that everyone should be "treated the same" here as in your response at the top, are you proposing that the wealthy also receive "welfare"?

It's really not clear what you're proposing.




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Kick! n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #1
Many of those that will lose benefits sre supporting families. panader0 Dec 2013 #2
That's an Excellent point! One of my best friends is a union electrician and is supporting 3 kids adirondacker Dec 2013 #6
Okay, how long should these benefits be extended for....? Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #3
? ProSense Dec 2013 #4
Answers... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #5
Why do you ProSense Dec 2013 #7
Perhaps I was not clear. Your questions in bold. Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #8
Is the ProSense Dec 2013 #10
Answers (Your questions in bold) Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #12
You ProSense Dec 2013 #14
How many different times and ways do I need to explain this? Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #15
"If you cannot find a job within a set period of time, this benefit should end. " ProSense Dec 2013 #16
No clue on any of that... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #19
Also, if someone ProSense Dec 2013 #17
Yes, if they cannot find work they will become poor... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #18
What ProSense Dec 2013 #22
You will have to puzzle this out for youself now. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #23
Can't explain? It's your point. n/t ProSense Dec 2013 #24
I did Pro, and my words are not cryptic. I believe you are playing a game... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #25
No ProSense Dec 2013 #26
The THREAD is discussing unemployment... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #27
First ProSense Dec 2013 #28
Answers (you in bold) Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #29
Wait ProSense Dec 2013 #32
Simple... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #33
This doesn't ProSense Jan 2014 #34
Thanks PS! Cha Dec 2013 #9
There needs to be a Job Reserve Board gulliver Dec 2013 #11
That's actually freaking brilliant... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #20
compassion is sooo yesterday. spanone Dec 2013 #13
k&r ! nt steve2470 Dec 2013 #21
If congress doesn't act perhaps President Obama can do something with an executive order DCBob Dec 2013 #30
k&r! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #31
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