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In reply to the discussion: Falling off the unemployment insurance cliff [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)10. Is the
I think it is reasonable to base temporary unemployment benefits off of wages. The idea here is to prevent a temporary loss of work from causing possible irreparable disruption to a family or individual. We don't want people losing their house or car because a factory closed, so we give them a little time to get a new job. However, the key here is temporary assistance.
Once we pass that temporary threshold -- whatever we decide that time limit is -- it's time to say that they are no longer collecting unemployment, and if they were middle class when they lost their job, perhaps a great deal of unemployment-- but welfare. Once we move beyond the temporary everyone, regardless of their previous income, should be treated the same.
Once we pass that temporary threshold -- whatever we decide that time limit is -- it's time to say that they are no longer collecting unemployment, and if they were middle class when they lost their job, perhaps a great deal of unemployment-- but welfare. Once we move beyond the temporary everyone, regardless of their previous income, should be treated the same.
..."temporary threshold" passed if the person remains unemployed? Are you proposing moving people from unemployment to "welfare"? Your point isn't clear.
That, and I think that there are not enough jobs for the number of people who need jobs. And that's a problem that no one in Washington is really talking about.
Again, Republicans are blocking any jobs bill: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024132016
Still, why can't benefits continue as long as the problem exists? If Congress doesn't pass legislation to stimulate job creation, the problem will drag on. In that case, do you think benefits should be cut off for the long-term unemployed?
I think we need to take care of everyone in this country. I don't think temporary unemployment extensions are the way to do it. We need a permanent long term solution, and everyone in this situation -- poor, middle class, or wealthy -- should be treated exactly the same.
Obviously a proposal like this wouldn't be popular with the formerly middle class worker who finds himself out of work and his career gone, but that situation is nothing new.
Obviously a proposal like this wouldn't be popular with the formerly middle class worker who finds himself out of work and his career gone, but that situation is nothing new.
Huh? Unemployment is based on income, and everyone is treated the same...based on income.
You state that there needs to be "a permanent long term solution." What exactly are you envisioning? Also, why on earth wouldn't your proposal "be popular with the formerly middle class worker"?
I mean, that seems to imply that it would be "popular" among the "wealthy." Why? What are you proposing?
Also, given that you repeated that everyone should be "treated the same" here as in your response at the top, are you proposing that the wealthy also receive "welfare"?
It's really not clear what you're proposing.
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That's an Excellent point! One of my best friends is a union electrician and is supporting 3 kids
adirondacker
Dec 2013
#6
"If you cannot find a job within a set period of time, this benefit should end. "
ProSense
Dec 2013
#16
I did Pro, and my words are not cryptic. I believe you are playing a game...
Demo_Chris
Dec 2013
#25