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Igel

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14. Didn't used to be that way.
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:09 PM
Dec 2013

Those who didn't want to conform helped push it to that.

It's always been more individualistic than a lot of other cultures that value clan or class above everything else. America also had a lot of civil society, though, that imposed customs and obligations on people and enforce societal norms with peer pressure and moralistic legislation, helping to keep the individualistic rebel and iconoclast in check.

The two opposing forces got out of sync. They won't get back in sync in my lifetime. Many of those who knocked it out of sync (a sort of reactionary movement) and those who reacted to the reaction won't let it. It would mean losing, and the self-righteous often prefer a scorched earth policy.

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Wow, the opposite of austerity actually works? 99Forever Dec 2013 #1
Long ago, in a poli sci course... pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #2
Geez. That was an expensive lesson. loudsue Dec 2013 #4
That lesson was to serve me well pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #5
That's great, pinboy! loudsue Dec 2013 #6
rec! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2013 #3
We're all in this together & when we build societies based on that premise, we all do better. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #7
Insightful post. Kicking here. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #8
Hi there Crisp!!! PatSeg Dec 2013 #9
I think it's worse for men, too. CrispyQ Jan 2014 #16
That whole rugged individualism thing PatSeg Jan 2014 #17
+1 El_Johns Dec 2013 #13
Didn't used to be that way. Igel Dec 2013 #14
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k&r n/t RainDog Dec 2013 #11
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A big KICK! countryjake Dec 2013 #15
People are poor because they have no money SoCalDem Jan 2014 #18
that is mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #19
K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #20
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