Stop Fawning Over Pope Francis at the Expense of Women and Gay Rights

[TheKentuckian]

84. At this point, I think it is fair to say quit the hypocritical gnashing of teeth.

All kinds of folks with from less than optimal all the way to near Scrooge positions are swallowed if said person isn't a guy basher or anti abortion.

Folks can be fucking horrible economically and be fine. Folks can be warmongering assholes and be fine.

When you call the positions "Centrist", in context it seems absurd. These aren't the positions of "No Labels", nor the DLC, not coming from "Third Way", I'm not hearing even tones from what remains of the "blue dogs", this is not the economics of "leadership" in the Democratic party so what "Centrists" are in any way aggressively even campaigning for economic justice?

No, what goes on in some minds it would seem is economics is a single item on a checklist that can be disregarded in favor of other focuses when in actuality economics is all pervasive and dominates the orientation of all politics. Who controls the resources and who will benefit is 90% of better of the whole story, yes even of bigoted oppression.

Economics is about who eats, who's children will have opportunities, who will have clean water, who will live without hope, what people will have self determination, who will not have to live a life in fear from death from above and who will, who will have shelter, it says if whole species are pushed to extinction including our own.

Guess what? In practical reality you can't be for women's or gay rights and back burner economics because what happens is you become is purely the diversity of the elite few. The "right" of wealth and the despair of the masses.

Now, I'm never going to pretend anybody is going to have much opportunity when they are a forced baby factory so I think it is more than fair to ask some folks to stop acting like folks can live on choice and take shelter under a marriage certificate for all it matters as a focus politically.

I call bullshit on the premise that there is more patience for figures who are regressive in social issues but are more progressive fiscally and economically in no small measure due to rarity of any such birds and a landscape chock full of horrendously stupid and clearly toxic policy rolling the day for decades.

I don't get what there is not to see of the ass whipping in progress. Disparity is at feudal levels, motherfuckers wholesale buy the political process, speech and money deemed one, corporations capturing our democratic institutions, opportunity for education diminishes along with opportunities from education, mobility increasingly downward for most, poisoning our water and privatization for what is clean, taking control of the food supply all the way to the seeds.

I am absolutely talking about the big picture for all of us but you better bet your bottom dollar that the folks discussing economics will be the first ones called purists after environmentalists are roasted and the peace advocates are mocked and it will continue long after the others have been ignored so long as to be forgotten save some vestigial mockery carried on like a holiday tradition.
Meanwhile, one is probably not even going to be allowed to hang around should they deem an equality advocate to be a purist, which I'm fine with but not the open hypocrisy that comes out in the wash nor the near blindness that must come in a vision so narrow and yes, I'm forced to call your vision narrow when you are calling these positions in direct opposition to the dominant school of "thought" vocalized form this level of visibility.

Wanna argue for a comprehensive worldview? Please do but openly gay friendly plutocracy operating a dystopia where abortion is available (at least for those who can pay...we'll discuss that later) isn't in my acceptable range and I don't apologize for it. Most battles, I'll take help from where it comes to be honest, most are to desperate and critical to be too picky. If Paul can wake up some against the drug war then he is good for something. If Darth Cheney moves some on marriage equality then we are better off than with more opposition. If one can get LBJ on voting rights is he no use until he moves on Vietnam?

I swear it sometimes feels like it really is actually opposition to the message because the tolerance of being substandard and worse in other areas.