Is it possible to have a conversation

[freshwest]

23. Nothing productive about the subject, too much ideology to talk honestly with each other, as well as

justification and denial. On topics such as you want to discuss, there is relentless trolling in the classic sense of diverting threads. It worked, now people just avoid the threads.

The crowd at DU2 seemed more open and less hostile, less willing to insult women and minorities. But then, I only started posting here after the 2010 election. It's changed a lot from what it was back then, IMO.

I gave up on trying to have any talk about it or ask questions. Too much baiting, obsession and hostility. Like Meta which really opened my mind to some things I've never forgotten.

I wrote in the last days there before Skinner deleted the group, that it had changed my opinion of different parts of the community. I realized that despite agreeing with other members on other subjects, the side of some that was revealed in Meta was so disturbing and degrading, that I didn't want to talk to a certain portion of them - about anything.

I lost my trust in the honesty of some members. Other things since then didn't restore that. So I don't take debate here as seriously as I once did. It's a loss and some of the older posters have left for good, some say they've found more liberal places.

Skinner and crew have created a remarkably functional architecture on this website. But they can't do anything about what people do or say here. Sorry that I have no positive suggestion for you.

In short, the answer is No.