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KitSileya

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336. And that 11-year old who was gang raped,

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:40 AM

Dec 2013

and the town was agonizing over the future of the rapists - it was ruined, ruined, I say! "She wanted it to happen" one of the townfolks said to the press. Her parents had to flee the city because of threatening phone calls - they didn't control their daughter well enough, dontcha know! The attorney for one of the men described her as a spider - as in the spider and the fly - during the trial. She was just luring the 20 men to hold her prisoner and rape her again and again.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gang-rape-case-11-year-old-girl-texas-continues-divide-small-town-article-1.156043

It doesn't matter if she was begging them to have sex with her - at 11, she cannot consent. But that doesn't stop a whole town from blaming her instead of the guys who did it.

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Rape is never the victims fault. [View all] trumad Dec 2013 OP

While I agree... NoOneMan Dec 2013 #1

Every single fucking post ---there you are..... trumad Dec 2013 #7

I imagine we could all strive for some more civility NoOneMan Dec 2013 #13

as was pointed out yesterday, perhaps you should read, and heed, your own remarks. niyad Dec 2013 #160

exactly. every. single. fuckin. post. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #15

Well, to be fair, here you are too. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #25

and... pintobean Dec 2013 #29

Yep... NoOneMan Dec 2013 #36

that would be the difference between passive aggressive and straight. i prefer straight on. seabeyond Dec 2013 #56

I think we should just be kind and civil period NoOneMan Dec 2013 #61

no rude. i do not think straight and blunt is rude. at all. or uncivil. passive aggressive seabeyond Dec 2013 #72

"being straight and blunt is the act of being considerate" xulamaude Dec 2013 #83

i think. i think it is being considerate and respectful. not treating people like a child. seabeyond Dec 2013 #92

Ok! Thanks for the clarification NoOneMan Dec 2013 #89

or you are presuming to presume. and ... seabeyond Dec 2013 #95

what is that from? nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #173

i am sorry. i did not finish the post. thank you for pointing it out. seabeyond Dec 2013 #182

thanks. I will check it out. nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #196

And what's so important about not "offending" people who should be on the same side anyway? nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #275

THANK YOU. put much more gently than I am inclined to do. niyad Dec 2013 #353

Oh, it's no gift ... unless you're talking about how to fix a washing machine, where to go for polly7 Dec 2013 #97

empathy and love is thru out my posts. i manifest the love, speaking thru the heart. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #100

LOL!!!! nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #101

see the joy i brought to you. i am that good. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #105

Well you've told us so often enough, so I'm sure you must believe it. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #107

Great post NoOneMan Dec 2013 #103

Thank you. polly7 Dec 2013 #109

ah yes, the latest "tone" argument. funny that it seems to apply only to how women are supposed niyad Dec 2013 #164

It is kind of funny, isn't it? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #166

Isn't that funny? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #167

Bullshit!!!! polly7 Dec 2013 #168

I read it, I actually read the whole discussion, and I stand by my statement. I don't need a clue niyad Dec 2013 #171

Oh, I have a lot of experience with it also .... you're not so special in that regard. polly7 Dec 2013 #176

"too much experience with this type of discussion..." You mean the ol' Fly Trap type of discussion? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #178

"Preached to"? xulamaude Dec 2013 #185

I read ... and understand, perfectly fine. polly7 Dec 2013 #190

How can you tell when somebody xulamaude Dec 2013 #200

By the way they speak to you and treat you. polly7 Dec 2013 #202

Well I kind of figured that but was looking for xulamaude Dec 2013 #206

Because it's such a simple concept. polly7 Dec 2013 #209

wow polly. that is a whole lot of nasty. actually those in real life actually value this about me. seabeyond Dec 2013 #192

Never mean? polly7 Dec 2013 #198

see. i simply disagree with you. and you are holding onto this anger so so so tightly. seabeyond Dec 2013 #201

Oh, I always get angry when good, kind people are abused and driven to polly7 Dec 2013 #204

stories told. that is all. go be angry polly. attack, accuse, insult, rant and rave. whatever. seabeyond Dec 2013 #207

You still can't accept what you did. polly7 Dec 2013 #208

"i have my pizza coming." pintobean Dec 2013 #224

Now now ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #210

Oh I'm absolutely fine, but thanks for the faux concern. polly7 Dec 2013 #212

Passive aggressive? Cowardly? pintobean Dec 2013 #140

not funny! hrmjustin Dec 2013 #183

Just go away. YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #330

Why? chervilant Dec 2013 #359

Throwing some fire-retardant on the current DU gender wars at this point is a good thing, I concur. Electric Monk Dec 2013 #2

And just who the fuck said it was? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #3

You've really never heard the she was wearing the wrong thing in the wrong neighborhood shit? Electric Monk Dec 2013 #5

Yeah, right...I'M the one picking a fight. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #6

You never heard the she deserved it because of what she was wearing.. trumad Dec 2013 #12

Go back and read my post. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #16

From my experience, no, not in real life. And no, not on DU either. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #20

Oh---so you think it's all 2nd hand shit? trumad Dec 2013 #26

For me, yes, it is by definition NoOneMan Dec 2013 #34

you love dilbert? does that include his sexist, jackass creator? niyad Dec 2013 #251

Really? trumad Dec 2013 #9

Yes. I'll even repeat it for you. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #11

This took about 10 seconds to find. trumad Dec 2013 #17

Okay, maybe I should rephrase. Who the fuck HERE said it was? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #27

Precisely. klook Dec 2013 #228

People post stuff to counter other kinds of RW talking points all the time, redqueen Dec 2013 #232

silly, don't you understand? we are talking about an issue primarily of concern to WOMEN. i mean niyad Dec 2013 #253

but we have endless posts about the supposedly high number of rape accusations, despite the niyad Dec 2013 #259

This thread... Agschmid Dec 2013 #321

I've seen ... variations of it here. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #360

We've had extensive discussion about the fact that women need to dress BainsBane Dec 2013 #69

Acquitted...that means "not guilty". Right? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #78

I do believe that Bains 'resigned' from MIRT a short time ago. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #87

I like your use of quotes. pintobean Dec 2013 #249

Not sure what you mean... cyberswede Dec 2013 #333

That is true BainsBane Dec 2013 #332

MIRT has no jurisdiction over members with over 100 posts BainsBane Dec 2013 #88

So why did you want those links to report me? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #91

No jurisdiction? You only recently learned this apparently? n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #195

I understand your absentee stint on MIRT left you limited awareness of what transpired there BainsBane Dec 2013 #242

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #314

wow. seabeyond Dec 2013 #318

and your first post on du was victim blaming. seabeyond Dec 2013 #320

That's quite a blanket statement cyberswede Dec 2013 #322

yah think? So do I. uppityperson Dec 2013 #327

. Agschmid Dec 2013 #329

LOL BainsBane Dec 2013 #331

I went back multiple pages in MIRT and did a search on your username... using Ctrl+F... Agschmid Dec 2013 #325

i do recall a lot of talk about how women dress boston bean Dec 2013 #121

Very true, that was quite recent BainsBane Dec 2013 #144

you do not seriously expect ANYONE on this board to believe that you have never heard a victim niyad Dec 2013 #177

Frankly, niyad... NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #416

of course not. that was why you had to change your story from "never heard of it" to "nobody niyad Jan 2014 #421

Where did I say "never heard of it"? NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #423

Is this a true or false question? Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #4

Well good for you... trumad Dec 2013 #10

Never. Never, ever, ever. WillowTree Dec 2013 #8

Amen. calimary Dec 2013 #219

I'm lost. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #14

No. Just more flamebait. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #18

Really.... trumad Dec 2013 #28

Who has posted it on DU? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #32

Again---what the fuck are you talking about? trumad Dec 2013 #37

Okay, then... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #41

Yeah---thought so. trumad Dec 2013 #46

You really know how to throw the zingers. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #51

Why can't the poster just mean what it means? trumad Dec 2013 #21

Because 100% of us on this website (should) agree with that. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #24

People post stuff to counter other kinds of RW talking points all the time, redqueen Dec 2013 #237

Yep. Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #257

Why can't a post about a woman who stabs someone with a ceramic object just be that? The Straight Story Dec 2013 #197

Not for her clothes, but a jury on DU let stand that a woman who drinks cannot be raped. KitSileya Dec 2013 #335

agree 1,000,000,000 % nt steve2470 Dec 2013 #19

How dare you try to make me apologize for being a man! Iggo Dec 2013 #22

Link to two posts where a DUer said that it was the victims fault. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #23

I'd settle for one. Bonobo Dec 2013 #30

That's right. trumad Dec 2013 #35

So 2 links is too many intaglio Dec 2013 #42

2 links to what? trumad Dec 2013 #44

I know, but the usual suspects will insist you did intaglio Dec 2013 #52

It's their new strategy..... trumad Dec 2013 #58

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #98

I don't have a link handy, but I have seen posts here on DU about pedophiles in jail getting Electric Monk Dec 2013 #49

Yes, that would be the only example. Nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #53

We could point to your thread BainsBane Dec 2013 #148

Disingenuous and shameful post. Nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #161

Surprised? pintobean Dec 2013 #181

I certainly thought so BainsBane Dec 2013 #229

Let's get right to the issue. Bonobo Dec 2013 #240

You claimed it was insulting because it mentioned the word men BainsBane Dec 2013 #258

That is a mischaracterization of what I said. Bonobo Dec 2013 #262

People can read the text themselves and come to their own conclusions BainsBane Dec 2013 #264

I did not intend to offend rape victims. Bonobo Dec 2013 #267

Why do you think how you "felt" so important? BainsBane Dec 2013 #285

My god that's hypocritical Bonobo Dec 2013 #289

No, that isn't true BainsBane Dec 2013 #343

I think it's funny that 'broom' is one of the top words in HOF. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #351

Wasn't there a RW personality (rhymes with Shrek) that used this silly tactic Android3.14 Dec 2013 #280

If I were to post about an anti-gay bashing PSA BainsBane Dec 2013 #266

I see your point. Bonobo Dec 2013 #268

I don't think there is only my issue BainsBane Dec 2013 #287

I really don't care what you think. Bonobo Dec 2013 #295

+1000. Yes ........... polly7 Dec 2013 #305

You don't need to care BainsBane Dec 2013 #345

see post 189 niyad Dec 2013 #193

What the fuck does that mean? trumad Dec 2013 #33

Who is getting crazy up in here? NoOneMan Dec 2013 #40

Do you always have to cuss in your responses? Wow, you are a piece of work. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #68

Yeah I gotta fucking cuss... trumad Dec 2013 #79

LOL, stay classy trumad! Are you 8? n-t Logical Dec 2013 #90

Are you 88? trumad Dec 2013 #93

Pick any thread about rape BainsBane Dec 2013 #147

Here is one BainsBane Dec 2013 #156

... and ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #342

Funny how that happens BainsBane Dec 2013 #344

and on and on we go. round and round we go. yes. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #346

please show me the rule in DU where a graphic has to be about something posted on DU--we niyad Dec 2013 #189

People post stuff to counter other kinds of RW talking points all the time, redqueen Dec 2013 #245

NSS! nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #31

What does "NSS" mean? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #48

Just guessing... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #54

Oh, right. Okay that makes sense. Thank you. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #59

Amen trumad hrmjustin Dec 2013 #38

Well, duh! Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #39

Well duh. trumad Dec 2013 #43

Oh, I'm sure Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #45

Not difficult at all. trumad Dec 2013 #47

TMHR (sad on a liberal board) demmiblue Dec 2013 #50

What does TMHR mean? NoOneMan Dec 2013 #64

Suckle, suckle. n/t demmiblue Dec 2013 #75

Tandem Mirror Hybrid Reactor? NoOneMan Dec 2013 #81

So I'm on Facebook.. trumad Dec 2013 #67

Yep, yep. demmiblue Dec 2013 #82

Attacked? I just see people discussing it. Everyone agrees of course NoOneMan Dec 2013 #86

First you start with the show me the links.... trumad Dec 2013 #102

No... NoOneMan Dec 2013 #110

I wonder if these two are married and are in different rooms same house arguing on DU? mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #55

That would be hilarious indeed, if it turned out that trumad and seabeyond were a couple. nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #62

stupid post Egnever Dec 2013 #57

Stupid message? trumad Dec 2013 #60

if they posted it there then yup Egnever Dec 2013 #63

Wow! trumad Dec 2013 #70

right, because rape victims are NEVER blamed (see texas teen and the latest gang rape in india) niyad Dec 2013 #215

And that 11-year old who was gang raped, KitSileya Dec 2013 #336

I certainly remember that one. the two I cited were from last week alone. niyad Dec 2013 #352

It horrifies me, especially since so many of the victims are underage KitSileya Dec 2013 #354

one would think everything you said is pretty obvious, but, judging by far too many of the posts niyad Dec 2013 #355

Were that were true. But this is America. The victim is at fault and the perp is the victim. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #65

You little battles within another group is getting really fucking tedious. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #66

What is it with you guys... trumad Dec 2013 #73

What guys? The way you are posting is really weird. Are you still running around madinmaryland Dec 2013 #131

Why are all the images of females? oberliner Dec 2013 #71

Good point oberliner. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #74

Ugg.... trumad Dec 2013 #76

What a strange reaction to a perfectly rational question. polly7 Dec 2013 #80

What do you mean? oberliner Dec 2013 #94

Are male rape victims often accused xulamaude Dec 2013 #99

LOL--- trumad Dec 2013 #108

They're not? nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #111

Sure they are... trumad Dec 2013 #115

Then why the disdain for the questions? polly7 Dec 2013 #116

Ahhh disdain... trumad Dec 2013 #122

I have a problem with YOU laughing it off. polly7 Dec 2013 #126

Now you see... trumad Dec 2013 #129

Nah, I don't have to make anything up here. polly7 Dec 2013 #133

That's not laughing it off.... trumad Dec 2013 #137

nit picking shit... one_voice Dec 2013 #180

Oh knock it the fuck off...... trumad Dec 2013 #238

By you guys... one_voice Dec 2013 #246

Because it is another "look at me" thread. nt madinmaryland Dec 2013 #136

I think so too. polly7 Dec 2013 #145

He pretty much says what his intent was in post #106. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #158

"Weird shit" pointing out that males are raped? oberliner Dec 2013 #123

There are people that say male victims ask for it davidn3600 Dec 2013 #112

Based upon what they were wearing? xulamaude Dec 2013 #124

Yes, and based on DU, at least, those are mostly men. KitSileya Dec 2013 #340

Is this post just about clothes? oberliner Dec 2013 #118

Looks to me like the state of dress/undress xulamaude Dec 2013 #130

In one image, the female appears not to be wearing any clothes oberliner Dec 2013 #135

Are men often accused of 'asking for it' xulamaude Dec 2013 #139

Yes, for sure oberliner Dec 2013 #142

Are you speaking of date rape xulamaude Dec 2013 #143

Yes, exactly oberliner Dec 2013 #149

Okay. In that case I'll suggest xulamaude Dec 2013 #154

But the graphic was posted here at DU oberliner Dec 2013 #155

Wow simply wow, reading this thread helped me to understand your reasons for leaving on Break, they AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #369

Good point NoOneMan Dec 2013 #77

Because males dont matter davidn3600 Dec 2013 #85

"People" cheer? "People" sweep it under the rug? xulamaude Dec 2013 #163

Are you blind? davidn3600 Dec 2013 #169

Only slightly. I do need new glasses but, xulamaude Dec 2013 #172

Maybe you should call out the non-jokes as well? LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #211

Wow... one_voice Dec 2013 #218

Hi. xulamaude Dec 2013 #225

Oh, it's not against a rule... LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #234

Having checked the context of the two-week-old link xulamaude Dec 2013 #230

You click the permalink button, and c/p from the browser window LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #250

Thank you for the 'call out' linking procedure... xulamaude Dec 2013 #252

Glad I could help. n/t LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #254

And absolutely none of that is acceptable. Period. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #261

And those people are all idiots, I think we all agree. Dash87 Dec 2013 #293

Several reasons Lordquinton Dec 2013 #125

"You have to bring it up every time the topic comes up?" oberliner Dec 2013 #132

Excuse the hyperbolic statement Lordquinton Dec 2013 #146

I understand that argument oberliner Dec 2013 #152

Because for some reason.... trumad Dec 2013 #134

What does this mean? oberliner Dec 2013 #138

You should edit the OP Lordquinton Dec 2013 #184

Not true Hosnon Dec 2013 #199

Ok, in most circumstances Lordquinton Dec 2013 #213

That strikes my as insulting. Hosnon Dec 2013 #216

Then start a campaign for Gay men Lordquinton Dec 2013 #227

Wow... one_voice Dec 2013 #235

Why do some people have to insert men into every discussion about women? Lordquinton Dec 2013 #337

Well since I'm able walk and chew.. one_voice Dec 2013 #376

Gay men make up a small percentage of all men. Hosnon Jan 2014 #413

I serve on my local pride board. Hosnon Jan 2014 #412

Rape is not a "women's" issue. May I remind you about our LGBTQ brothers and sisters. idwiyo Jan 2014 #420

I didn't bring men up. But you said this: Hosnon Jan 2014 #411

Good points... one_voice Dec 2013 #223

When are men blamed for their rapes because of clothes they wore? Your post doesn't make any sense. Dash87 Dec 2013 #283

Is the graphic just about clothes? oberliner Dec 2013 #290

The whole point, imo, is the cliche that "she shouldn't have been wearing that." Dash87 Dec 2013 #292

None of them are children either. KitSileya Dec 2013 #338

Damn Skippy nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #84

wow the vitriol over a post EVERYONE agrees with! boston bean Dec 2013 #96

You missed the poster who wondered xulamaude Dec 2013 #104

Not understanding why that bothered you oberliner Dec 2013 #272

Yes others have. I posted what you are responding to xulamaude Dec 2013 #273

Sorry about that oberliner Dec 2013 #281

Fly trap my friend.. trumad Dec 2013 #106

And there it is... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #141

Yep LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #175

Gonna be quiet around here for a while... n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #188

One hopes... n/t LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #191

Can't wait. Rex Dec 2013 #341

You're doing it wrong pintobean Dec 2013 #179

Agreed. treestar Dec 2013 #113

I think you should post this every hour on the hour for like... the next six weeks. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #114

True there can be male victims treestar Dec 2013 #117

So, not because of incapacitation due to drugs or alcohol they willingly ingested? n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #150

That could be treestar Dec 2013 #157

Everyone seems to be forgetting gay men. Hosnon Jan 2014 #414

Curious? trumad Dec 2013 #119

"we've all seen the countless posts here claiming that female victims of rape were somehow at fault" NoOneMan Dec 2013 #120

Of course he was..... trumad Dec 2013 #127

I think if you check the OP's transparency page, you'll see that Jan 6th might staunch the flow. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #231

Yeah but only for two weeks. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #247

Oh no--there's a GBCW thread in HOF. Perhaps there ought to be a memorial thread in msanthrope Dec 2013 #356

That's oddly disturbing. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #363

Its a powerful message! etherealtruth Dec 2013 #128

A very brief search turned up a couple of victim blaming posts intaglio Dec 2013 #151

How the fuck is any of that blaming the victim? davidn3600 Dec 2013 #159

The last one really was treestar Dec 2013 #162

"There is always going to be crime in this world." xulamaude Dec 2013 #170

So penis = guilty automatically? I'm starting to understand where you're coming from. Electric Monk Dec 2013 #186

What are you talking about? xulamaude Dec 2013 #194

It's a minority of men (a relatively small minority) who do these things. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #294

If you cannot see the difference between that and blaming the victim, you have lost all perspective. Bonobo Dec 2013 #217

k and r--it is an obscenity that there even has to be a discussion about this, but I keep forgetting niyad Dec 2013 #153

I love these "rock and dog" threads. I visit DU infrequently these days, but I'm starting to notice retread Dec 2013 #165

and long time lurkers, who finally got around to registering to wiegh in too. Really. nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #174

rec DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #187

Yup, that is why it is called rape and not reverse you made me fuck you or some shit. TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #203

Everybody knows that libodem Dec 2013 #205

Anyone who says that rape is the victims fault is a fucking asshole who should go fuck themselves. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #214

(((hugs Justin))) boston bean Dec 2013 #220

I do not know either but I am not surprised. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #222

I agree 100% with that. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #243

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #221

In other news, Water is wet. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2013 #226

Well---there are a lot of assholes out there that don't know water is wet..... trumad Dec 2013 #233

and I just saw that two people voted to leave that hidden thread alone. sickening, but not niyad Dec 2013 #263

My dog, the response to something so very basic is quite sickening.n/t demmiblue Dec 2013 #236

But you see...teh mens have it just as bad... trumad Dec 2013 #239

LOL, dude, no one said anything of the kind. Bonobo Dec 2013 #241

And "dropping the soap" in prison is not a reason, or justification, for rape. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #244

Oh I made mistakes in all the years I've been here... trumad Dec 2013 #248

"I evolved into a person that stopped saying that kind of shit" xulamaude Dec 2013 #255

Wait. I thought it was a fly trap. Were you educating us or posting a fly trap for your amusement? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #256

What about post #106? pintobean Dec 2013 #260

You like to post about what "real men" are as compared to "little boys" Bonobo Dec 2013 #265

And what of "White Knights" xulamaude Dec 2013 #279

Because certain people's tender feelings are always, ALWAYS more important than real issues! nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #298

nobody is "fighting" you, it's just another rape thread on DU.. snooper2 Dec 2013 #362

hey trumad, take a look at this thread... boston bean Dec 2013 #269

Rape by definition is indefensible. Deep13 Dec 2013 #270

We should charge people a dollar for stating the obvious Android3.14 Dec 2013 #271

bonobo linked saying teach the rapist. this message to teach the rapist. men bothered about seabeyond Dec 2013 #274

See post #106 pintobean Dec 2013 #276

i am not going to hunt down 106. you assume. and so what.... this is not about you, seabeyond Dec 2013 #291

Don't bother to be informed, just keep on educating. pintobean Dec 2013 #348

Motive? I thought it was all about "tone". PassingFair Dec 2013 #302

I guess we need to think of the tone deaf. pintobean Dec 2013 #349

ok, I have to ask... one_voice Dec 2013 #278

first... i like that video. i think it is about par with the Op in this thread. seabeyond Dec 2013 #286

I'm still confused... one_voice Dec 2013 #296

after both your post and bonobos, i think sometimes we have sucha preconceived idea of another, we seabeyond Dec 2013 #300

Yes. I misunderstood the... one_voice Dec 2013 #303

I am so tired of it and I think you must understand that. Bonobo Dec 2013 #308

agreed seabeyond Dec 2013 #311

I will try to be less sensitive to tone. Bonobo Dec 2013 #313

ya? well, i already beat you to that and decided like way earlier i was gonna do the same. seabeyond Dec 2013 #315

There you go again! Bonobo Dec 2013 #319

good deal. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #324

I have told you at least twice I did not call you a rape apologist BainsBane Dec 2013 #347

OK, I understand. Bonobo Dec 2013 #350

Do you honestly believe I disagree with anything Bonobo Dec 2013 #282

nowhere did i suggest that you did. that is not what i was saying. that is not my point. the point seabeyond Dec 2013 #288

I'd take it a step further and say the victim of any and every crime is never at fault. egduj Dec 2013 #277

I got banned from the mens group. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #284

For harassing a poster there. Bonobo Dec 2013 #297

I am sure he felt oppressed hearing the truth. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #299

In any case, you are responsible for your own behavior. Bonobo Dec 2013 #301

I will be happy to put my behavior on this site to every single member. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #304

That group is not there for you to bring your personal attacks. Bonobo Dec 2013 #306

As a host I respect it is your decision, however you are wrong. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #307

"Oh poor men group" Bonobo Dec 2013 #310

Good skinner should see it all and after I write this i will also send out talks to him. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #312

I could be wrong. Bonobo Dec 2013 #316

I always am respectful and that is why I brought it to skinner. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #323

I deleted our discussion so I can not send it to him. you said you sent it so t hat is good enough hrmjustin Dec 2013 #317

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #309

Most rapes happen to be with people that are close to the victim Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #326

And the victim is not always a grown woman itsrobert Dec 2013 #328

yes. often not. good point. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #334

It really is that simple of an equation. Rex Dec 2013 #339

Tru - Now I understand your decission to leave. Your thread got hijacked. Its a shame you needed.... marble falls Dec 2013 #357

No shit! blackspade Dec 2013 #358

You can't mug people because of the jewelry they are wearing fbc Dec 2013 #361

I like this rejoinder! +1 PassingFair Dec 2013 #365

Wow. 363 replies for such an obvious and non-controversial post Matariki Dec 2013 #364

Nah. It's controversial because xulamaude Dec 2013 #366

I understand Matariki Dec 2013 #367

Tough day on du when you get run over for posting a Think Progress image. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2013 #368

Given the history of the OP pintobean Dec 2013 #370

Yes, it;s kind of confusing for some of us who've dealt with this horror in real life. polly7 Dec 2013 #371

And now a gbcw thread pintobean Dec 2013 #372

I think it's just a shame that Trumad posted kiva Dec 2013 #373

+1... one_voice Dec 2013 #382

Oh I found out a long time ago here that some women don't matter a bit. polly7 Dec 2013 #384

i spoke out for you. and the others. a lot of other women were in pain too, seabeyond Dec 2013 #386

Bullshit you did!!!!! polly7 Dec 2013 #387

of course i did. faulty memory on your part. seabeyond Dec 2013 #389

No, it's yet 'another' lie on your part!!!!! polly7 Dec 2013 #390

one would hardly see insults in the posts i made to you in this subthread polly. seabeyond Dec 2013 #391

No shit, it's not a subject to take lightly or be offensive about! polly7 Dec 2013 #392

i do not know or care who created the thread. i know you were told you were seabeyond Dec 2013 #395

Apparently you haven't a damned clue what I'm talking about, polly7 Dec 2013 #397

I do understand. NCTraveler Dec 2013 #403

I guess I just saw it differently. pintobean Dec 2013 #405

Interesting comment from several years back... madinmaryland Dec 2013 #374

as you know he was being kicked off for a period of time in a couple of days. boston bean Dec 2013 #375

And doing in a safe haven group. pintobean Dec 2013 #377

you do a lot of shaking your head.. LOL boston bean Dec 2013 #378

Yeah, a lot of people here do. pintobean Dec 2013 #379

This whole thing reminds me of this... madinmaryland Dec 2013 #380

OMG that's funny pintobean Dec 2013 #383

you just keep sinking lower and lower seabeyond Dec 2013 #388

You can't talk!!!!!! nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #394

If I'm still sinking in your opinion pintobean Dec 2013 #396

Lol!! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #402

I will miss your posts Trumad. I hope you come back soon. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #381

How the fuck does *this* start a 380+ post flamewar? MadrasT Dec 2013 #385

I agree, this should have been a string of "+1" type posts nt steve2470 Dec 2013 #393

K&R nt Zorra Dec 2013 #398

Kick. Iggo Dec 2013 #399

I love threads like this Blue_Adept Dec 2013 #400

Of course it's never the victim's fault. HappyMe Dec 2013 #401

k&r It would be even better if it also included male victims of rape. idwiyo Dec 2013 #404

In the context of being blamed for being raped because of the way you dress, KitSileya Dec 2013 #407

Think about gay male rape. idwiyo Dec 2013 #408

That's definitely a good point. KitSileya Dec 2013 #409

I am female too and it took me awhile to realise that idwiyo Dec 2013 #410

THANK you. Hosnon Jan 2014 #415

Hugs. idwiyo Jan 2014 #417

:) Hosnon Jan 2014 #418

Hugs :) idwiyo Jan 2014 #419

I'm laughing at all the flies buzzing in outrage at post 106 kcr Dec 2013 #406

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You do realize that this wasn't aimed towards victims, right? KitSileya Jan 2014 #424

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Depressing that this even had to be said, Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #426