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BainsBane

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54. What dig did I make?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:22 AM
Dec 2013

You are the one making allegations against me, while I was quite clear I have no idea who you are. There has been nothing civil about your exchange here. You began by attacking me, not discussing the problem. The only point I made about you was that your determination to see my comments as about you personally reveal exactly what I was talking about, as by the way does the thread "I refuse to apologize for being a man" (when no one asked him to), and "there is no rape culture on DU." I insinuated nothing about you. I made general comments based on my observances of responses by a vocal minority to feminists threads. I was quite clear that your response proved my point. Whatever else you think I insinuated is in your own head, and I take no responsibility for it. What would you have considered a civil response? Should I have said "I'm so sorry I hurt your feelings by posting about harassment and rape. I won't speak out of turn again"? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

It seems pretty clear to me that your definition of incivility is someone daring to disagree with you. That is simply lame. If you can't stand up for your views, what is the point anyway? Additionally, I have no idea what your views are other than a personal dislike for me, which is hardly an ideological position. That, by the way, is not an insinuation. It is a directly stated observation of your two posts in response to me here. If you ever wonder what I think, just ask. I'm not shy about expressing myself. I don't need to insinuate.

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Apparently not. nt oldhippie Dec 2013 #1
I suppose it depends on whether actual DU members are guilty of Sexism nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #2
Regardless... Texasgal Dec 2013 #6
If you're discussing alleged misogyny on DU then yes, I think you should provide Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #20
Absotlutely Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #42
This is really getting serious. But for the third time in about a week, I agree with you. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #55
Doesn't seem that way. zappaman Dec 2013 #3
No unfortunately Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #4
no nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #5
It's one of the repercussions of the Meta forum. pacalo Dec 2013 #7
Talking about sexism Texasgal Dec 2013 #9
I don't believe that's what pacalo meant. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #10
Perhaps he/she should change the post Texasgal Dec 2013 #11
Why should he/she change the post because you may have misunderstood polly7 Dec 2013 #16
LOL Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #21
mmmm ........... polly7 Dec 2013 #24
Your mangled interpretation of what I wrote is one example pacalo Dec 2013 #29
How sad. Texasgal Dec 2013 #8
Yeah, there hasn't been any discussion ... oldhippie Dec 2013 #14
Or discussions that Texasgal Dec 2013 #15
Ummm, no. Lot's and lots of attacks & enablement of same. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #30
Texasgal I dont think for most those three adjectives apply. Men and woman are getting Drew Richards Dec 2013 #41
It should be BainsBane Dec 2013 #12
The video didn't outrage me in the least. That is your "spin". Bonobo Dec 2013 #28
I never saw your posts on the issue, so I'm not talking about you BainsBane Dec 2013 #37
There you go again. All false and unsubstantiated accusations look in the mirror and tell Drew Richards Dec 2013 #43
I think you mean I CAUSED the problem BainsBane Dec 2013 #50
No! unlike you...i say exactly what I mean without adding additional insinuations Drew Richards Dec 2013 #51
Oh and bravo nice personal attack in your reply. Drew Richards Dec 2013 #52
What dig did I make? BainsBane Dec 2013 #54
Lol go look up the definition of projection and reread your post. I have nothing against you Drew Richards Dec 2013 #56
Meta! Iggo Dec 2013 #13
Certainly Orrex Dec 2013 #17
If it is brought up in a hostile way then probably not Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #18
Well.., sexism and misogyny is kinda Texasgal Dec 2013 #19
But bringing it up in a hostile way on DU Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #22
I've seen many posts Texasgal Dec 2013 #25
Some males are probably too quick to take offense. Also Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #26
Nothing productive about the subject, too much ideology to talk honestly with each other, as well as freshwest Dec 2013 #23
DU2 and earlier had clearly defined rules about civility and they were enforced by moderation. kcr Dec 2013 #27
Small groups of very hostile people have poisoned the atmosphere Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #31
It's much easier to troll on DU3. Posts that would never have made it on DU2 kcr Dec 2013 #32
Yep. And some lobby hard, hard, hard in ATA to reinstate guns... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #36
Posts that are pretty benign are also susceptible to hides NoOneMan Dec 2013 #58
Are you Just Asking Questions? If you have something to say, go ahead and say it. nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #34
OMFG Spot on! Thank You for this post...Very well put together and unrefutable..NOW Drew Richards Dec 2013 #39
So what did the person say? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #47
He basically posted the conversation breakdown from redqueens original post on the Indian PSA Drew Richards Dec 2013 #48
I dunno, can we? Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #35
Meta thread. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #38
Actual real discussion on any issue seems a challenge. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #40
I'm hoping it will when the temp bans go into effect. It might make people think a little Drew Richards Dec 2013 #45
I hope so, but I have a feeling all we'll see is more reincarnations of people liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #46
Provide links to threads Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #44
I tried to ask why these topics are treated differently. redqueen Dec 2013 #49
Well said! Drew Richards Dec 2013 #53
If so, I'd love to see it. NoOneMan Dec 2013 #57
No one is stopping you from having that conversation davidn3600 Dec 2013 #59
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