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AtheistCrusader

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35. If the position was so vital, to guard whatever, they could staff the job properly.

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:42 PM

Dec 2013

Meaning appropriate breaks, stimulation, etc. Also redundancy. Night shift work has this sort of effect on some people regardless.

I'm immune to circadian rhythm type stuff, but few of my co-workers are. Maybe one or two other people in the company like me. I've caught everyone else zoning/dozing from time to time.

People immune to that, jet lag, and other interruptions in your internal clock are not common, and fuck it, I don't even know, it's probably some sort of disorder that I can do it.

Proper labor protections would mean, in this case, lighting designed to dissuade the body from interpreting it as night time. Frequent breaks. Side stimulation. Buddy System. Etc.

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He should have gotten only a verbal warning IMO. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #53

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Why don't you tell us what you think it should be. Jazzgirl Dec 2013 #79

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It's a crying shame that a 72 year old, in this country, has to work to make ends meet. demosincebirth Dec 2013 #47

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That's fer danged sure. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #32

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Thanks for the insight... KansDem Dec 2013 #10

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+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2013 #60

One correction to that. FBaggins Dec 2013 #72

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His children should support him. roody Dec 2013 #54

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This is why we can't have nice things. GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #18

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This man needs to find a different job ???!!! bvar22 Dec 2013 #76

So true. n/t loudsue Dec 2013 #80

I think I owe you an apology. bvar22 Dec 2013 #84

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