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sendero

(28,552 posts)
4. Hospital billing....
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 08:54 AM
Dec 2013

.... is a byzantine mystery shrouded in secrecy. It's completely broken and needs to be fixed with LEGISLATION, the only thing short of single-payer that will work.

Most of the care hospitals provide is done under an insurance contract. Each insurance company (payer) contracts with each hospital (provider, usually at the "chain" level) exactly what the reimbursement will be for each procedure.

These reimbursements are often based somewhat on "charges", a fictional sum that nobody except poor saps with no insurance actually pays, or gets billed at least. The actual reimbursement is typically a small fraction of the "charges" number, something like 15 or 20 percent.

The net effect of this scheme is that if you have insurance, your insurance company gets billed something like a reasonable amount for your procedures and services. If you do NOT, you get billed the "non-contractual" rate which is an inflated beyond belief fictional number pulled out of thin air.

The LAW I want to see passed would set the amount billed to a non-insured patient at either the minimum that the hospital gets from any insurance company for the procedure/service, or at worst the average reimbursement for the procedure/service.

Then at least someone who has the misfortune of having to go to the hospital without insurance would have a fighting chance of getting a bill that has some basis in reality.

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Only airline seats customerserviceguy Dec 2013 #1
If airline tickets were like medicine: Faryn Balyncd Dec 2013 #20
So true! customerserviceguy Jan 2014 #21
UK comparison - sweet fuck all. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #2
WOW! that is stunning. xchrom Dec 2013 #3
We're not allowed to have an NHS (Single Payer). We were promised one, but it was just a lie. nt Romulox Dec 2013 #6
One of the main differences bearing in mind the subject of the OP is cost dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #7
"Single payer" is not *my* expression. It's the political vernacular used in the ACA debate. Romulox Dec 2013 #8
I did say "at first" dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #9
I understand now. Sorry for being so literal. nt Romulox Dec 2013 #10
you want I should kick your literal ass, Romulox? Skittles Jan 2014 #23
Hospital billing.... sendero Dec 2013 #4
This guy is now *required* to buy for-profit insurance. Most of the plans have deductibles in the Romulox Dec 2013 #5
+10 Myrina Dec 2013 #12
But, but, but... progressoid Dec 2013 #14
Well, it would save him about $5,000 to $9,000. jeff47 Dec 2013 #17
He appears to have insurance. Which is why his share is *only* $11K. Barack_America Jan 2014 #22
I had my gallbladder removed about five years ago, around $35K... Silent3 Dec 2013 #11
Both of my kids were born via c-section. About $55k. jeff47 Dec 2013 #18
I worked in hospitals in the 1960's HelenWheels Dec 2013 #13
my grandmother, while in a coma Brainstormy Dec 2013 #16
If you have the opportunity (ie non-emergency) shop hospitals NightWatcher Dec 2013 #15
not "broken", working as intended and designed for maximum profits nt msongs Dec 2013 #19
CORRECT Skittles Jan 2014 #24
well that bill makes me feel much better onethatcares Jan 2014 #25
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