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jeff47

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97. Dropping by and writing a comment takes about 2 minutes.

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:30 PM

Dec 2013

It's pretty easy to squeeze in a couple minutes every so often. I'm currently waiting for a compile and automated test suite to finish, for example.

Watching a video:
1) Requires getting around the company's block at the firewall of video streams.
2) Requires finding and installing speakers or headphones.
3) Requires sitting through the entire video.

But hey, we all must be doing it exactly like you, right?

So you've got plenty of time to post a massive rant against me, but you still can't quite get around to a single sentence covering what's wrong about the summary that is fixed by watching the video.

How odd. Almost like you're just looking for a way to attack instead of inform.

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Glenn Greenwald: The NSA Can "Literally Watch Every Keystroke You Make" [View all] Coyotl Dec 2013 OP

Welcome to the 10,000th episode... gcomeau Dec 2013 #1

Hi, I thought you might like to read about a little quirky thing that some of us are considering. Savannahmann Dec 2013 #3

Let's put it this way and see if you catch on... gcomeau Dec 2013 #4

Not what they are able to do Savannahmann Dec 2013 #7

And are they doing this interception for just anyone who strikes their fancy? randome Dec 2013 #12

Well in the past, they've listed to their ex-lover's phone calls. DirkGently Dec 2013 #17

I wouldn't try to sell anything to you or anyone else. randome Dec 2013 #20

They would lose the dramatic effect if they answered those questions Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #39

Hey, you were told that the sky is falling. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #57

"People aren't buying." - Really ??? - Then Explain This: WillyT Dec 2013 #65

Changes will occur at the NSA. randome Dec 2013 #84

Did someone not read the OP? gcomeau Dec 2013 #13

SO, they're intercepting computers and installing malware in them so that they CAN do this? Th1onein Dec 2013 #60

Excuse me? gcomeau Dec 2013 #66

You don't even make sense. Th1onein Dec 2013 #89

So apparently you've never bought a computer. jeff47 Dec 2013 #18

Talk about hilarious writing Progressive dog Dec 2013 #26

+1 BenzoDia Dec 2013 #9

Once you have been tortured by the government, this stuff takes on added importance. Coyotl Dec 2013 #6

Hey, at least we know where they practiced.... Pholus Dec 2013 #55

Too bad they aren't surveilling actual bad guys. Pholus Dec 2013 #54

I've assumed that since the first day I connected to the Internet. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #2

Maybe for you...but most Americans whose first experience was KoKo Dec 2013 #45

Long before Win95 for me. onehandle Dec 2013 #69

But...Everything we say and our e-mail, phone conversations, locations KoKo Dec 2013 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #107

Your assumption doesn't excuse or make any of this acceptable. TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #87

LOL, just like they record evey call made in the World snooper2 Dec 2013 #5

I invited the NSA to install a inner bowl toilet cam so they can see my opinion of them. L0oniX Dec 2013 #8

lol Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #37

Ah, you need to check out some sites jazzimov Dec 2013 #86

And, we the victims, get to pay for their fascism. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #10

but it's time for austerity in all other aspects. Education cuts, infrastructure cuts, etc. Electric Monk Dec 2013 #35

Are they recording anything else we stroke? Scurrilous Dec 2013 #11

You win the thread! FSogol Dec 2013 #63

Does anyone have a list of people that have went to prison because of NSA monitoring? FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #14

They tell law enforcement to create a cover-up of the source of info. Coyotl Dec 2013 #16

Interesting. Was this in one of the documents Snowden leaked? nt FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #19

Listen to the video where your question is answered. Coyotl Dec 2013 #21

Jeeez... 99Forever Dec 2013 #67

Here you go...... Th1onein Dec 2013 #62

Sorry, that's classified information. What makes you think you have any right to see it? Zorra Dec 2013 #28

I'm doing research and want a list on DU sockpuppets. Know any? last1standing Dec 2013 #59

No, darlin', they use the SOD for that, and the evidence they use against us is "recreated." Th1onein Dec 2013 #61

That's certainly a frightening hypothesis. FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #78

It's not an hypothesis Th1onein Dec 2013 #88

Ever notice that Greenwald, et al, manage to just skip over the 'targeting' step jeff47 Dec 2013 #15

Go here and then re-evaluate ... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #22

Oooo...One talk. jeff47 Dec 2013 #25

You couldn't possibly have had the time to watch this... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #27

You're free to explain how the summary is completely wrong. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2013 #29

Oh, I get it... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #30

Again, you are free to explain why the summary is wrong. jeff47 Dec 2013 #34

Yes� we wouldn't want to mess up that schedule MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #91

Yet you still can't explain what's so wrong about the summary. jeff47 Dec 2013 #93

"If the summary is so inadequate, surely you could explain�" WTF? MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #95

Dropping by and writing a comment takes about 2 minutes. jeff47 Dec 2013 #97

Welcome to my ignore list MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #100

can't refute their points... put them on ignore ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2013 #117

Hey, Einstein...Greenwald didn't release this information DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #31

So, you're such a genius you missed "et al"? (nt) jeff47 Dec 2013 #32

If you have something to say about der Spiegel, do so. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #36

So it's utterly inconceivable to you that both are doing the same thing jeff47 Dec 2013 #40

No, it's not inconceivable to me. What's inconceivable to me is the notion that you knew this was DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #41

I think I get by now the intent here of some come back commentary here... MrMickeysMom Dec 2013 #92

"Greenwald, et al" is a convenient grouping. Not the source of what I'm saying. jeff47 Dec 2013 #96

Have you seen the FISA warrant to Verizon? Th1onein Dec 2013 #64

Yes. Have you seen the relevant 1979 SCOTUS decision? jeff47 Dec 2013 #94

Verizon didn't store the data "forever," or even for very long, until Congress passed a law Th1onein Dec 2013 #102

No, Verizon still doesn't store the data very long. No such law has been passed. jeff47 Dec 2013 #103

Without us, there would be no data. So...it's our data. Th1onein Dec 2013 #104

Again, there is an on-topic SCOTUS ruling. jeff47 Dec 2013 #105

"Doesn't matter how much you like that ruling. That ruling is how the government will act. " Th1onein Dec 2013 #106

You're welcome to time travel back to 1789 and change the basic structure of our government. jeff47 Dec 2013 #109

You really don't understand the term "inalienable," do you? Th1onein Dec 2013 #111

You really don't understand "does not apply", do you? jeff47 Dec 2013 #113

Without us, there would be no data, and without us, no reason to collect the data. Th1onein Dec 2013 #114

No. Not quite. They can read and monitor your email and phone calls though. Rex Dec 2013 #23

Neither of us knows whether the NSA is doing real-time monitoring DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #38

Oh sure, if they use PCAnywhere or Logmein etc.. Rex Dec 2013 #46

Live monitoring of anyone/everyone all the time? I agree they're not there yet. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #51

Happy New Year DCA. Rex Dec 2013 #52

We are already there. Fact is keystroke monitoring was in play long before SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #101

So can any hacker who puts his or her mind to it intaglio Dec 2013 #24

+1 n/t Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #43

Any idiot with a gun can shoot you. Does that mean we shouldn't care if the government does it too? last1standing Dec 2013 #58

Thay have to be fucking kidding me. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #33

For around 50 bucks everyone can purchase a keystroke monitor... Historic NY Dec 2013 #42

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Local flower shop, discount liquor, bulk anal lubricant and breath freshening dog biscuits. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #70

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #48

But can they literally watch every keystroke 7 billion people make all at the same time? baldguy Dec 2013 #49

Not yet, I would think it would take a quantum leap in processing power Rex Dec 2013 #53

Naw, you seem to be able to cheerlead/apologize/agree enough for all of us. Pholus Dec 2013 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #108

none of these revelations are really surprising stupidicus Dec 2013 #50

The gov has been able to tap phone lines for tens and tens of years goldent Dec 2013 #68

Here you go.. how this info is being used against Americans "Parallel Construction" bobduca Dec 2013 #81

It's only meta-data. It's is only a series of individual typed letters and numbers, GoneFishin Dec 2013 #71

I was just going to post this here. Beat me to it. 20score Dec 2013 #72

I saw a few defenders of the NSA/authoritarian mindset here. 20score Dec 2013 #73

Ignore helps with that stomach turning quisling-queasieness bobduca Dec 2013 #82

Well, there goes ANOTHER Talking Point for the Conservative Right Authoritarians at DU. bvar22 Dec 2013 #74

So, do you think Obama is more like Hitler, or more like Stalin? baldguy Dec 2013 #75

When you use mindless ad hominems and attack people with insultingly 20score Dec 2013 #76

I think you're replying to the wrong post. baldguy Dec 2013 #79

Laughably LAME , Dude. bvar22 Dec 2013 #77

FYI, your hero Greenwald thinks Obama is more like Hitler. JUST LIKE THE TEABAGGERS DO! baldguy Dec 2013 #80

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Paul Revere!... SidDithers Dec 2013 #115

Member since: Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:13 PM baldguy Dec 2013 #116

Hey the turnaround on talking points is 24 hours... bobduca Dec 2013 #83

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something woo me with science Dec 2013 #98

well, of course! We've been doing that for years jazzimov Dec 2013 #85

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Corporate fascism. nt woo me with science Dec 2013 #99