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joshcryer

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9. Depends on whether your state has expanded Medicare.

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:24 AM

Jan 2014

And where they set poverty levels. Some Southern states admittedly fuck over the consumer, but there's not a lot that can be done about that at the Federal level thanks to the SCOTUS. Those people in those states will need to elect people who will protect them as opposed to shit on them.

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Michael Moore: ACA is both "awful" and "a godsend" [View all] eridani Jan 2014 OP

That sums up my feelings about the ACA very well. last1standing Jan 2014 #1

Exactly how I feel about it (n/t) gaspee Jan 2014 #2

ditto Skittles Jan 2014 #3

yep obxhead Jan 2014 #29

Count me as another one in complete agreement etherealtruth Jan 2014 #36

Agreed, a bad republican idea that is slightly better than nothing. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #39

It's much better for many but far worse for some who will pay more for less coverage. last1standing Jan 2014 #43

Exactly. Look at the money flows, somebody has to pay to support the insurance industry. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #44

I agree Octoberfurst Jan 2014 #64

it's a great plan if you are broke FatBuddy Jan 2014 #4

I've heard from lots of people here who've gotten subsidies on the exchange pnwmom Jan 2014 #5

That's what fatbuddy was saying pnwmom. "If you're broke"... loudsue Jan 2014 #10

our premium plus out of pocket questionseverything Jan 2014 #14

It's going to be up to us talking about it to make it happen. You know as well as I do loudsue Jan 2014 #15

I'm glad you're still supportive of the program then, despite all its flaws. pnwmom Jan 2014 #32

My premium exceeds my income Coyote_Bandit Jan 2014 #54

Thats terrible. But it's your state's fault, not the ACA's. pnwmom Jan 2014 #56

Medicaid expansion by the states was not mandated by the ACA Coyote_Bandit Jan 2014 #60

The states had to file a lawsuit in order to turn down the Medicaid money. pnwmom Jan 2014 #61

And I m still a second class throw away Coyote_Bandit Jan 2014 #62

Depends on whether your state has expanded Medicare. joshcryer Jan 2014 #9

Can you please put a dollar amount on that? Motown_Johnny Jan 2014 #21

Those are the premiums. It says nothing about the deductible. former9thward Jan 2014 #41

What age brackets does that graph cover? last1standing Jan 2014 #52

If you are broke and jobless, dotymed Jan 2014 #22

They've already announced they won't be fining people in that situation pnwmom Jan 2014 #33

The people that are broke while employed, people that are toward the right of that Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #40

If you're broke and jobless in Tennessee, cheapdate Jan 2014 #47

I hope you are right. dotymed Jan 2014 #66

I don't know. cheapdate Jan 2014 #67

You'd think Michael Moore would know the difference between pnwmom Jan 2014 #6

It has also come to light that, at least until 2015, the cap on out of pocket expenses only applies dflprincess Jan 2014 #48

Yes, that's one of the flaws. A couple of the states have laws that mandate pnwmom Jan 2014 #49

Flaw? It's dishonest dflprincess Jan 2014 #57

I don't think it was dishonest on the part of the legislators. pnwmom Jan 2014 #58

Oh please when could the insurance companies ever be trusted? dflprincess Jan 2014 #59

Perfection is the enemy of progress. Scuba Jan 2014 #7

ACA is a shitty 10-15 year workaround. joshcryer Jan 2014 #8

I totally agree joshcryer. And I'm no longer a fan of Obama...however.... loudsue Jan 2014 #11

It won't last that long shaayecanaan Jan 2014 #13

Obviously, Moore is both a poopyhead and a genius. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #12

Bwahahaha! valerief Jan 2014 #16

yeah. coz the obvious solution to the problems posed by the private HC insurance system was KG Jan 2014 #17

but can't you see?!?!?!!!! FatBuddy Jan 2014 #18

the real path to single payer lies through the failure of the ACA, not its success. KG Jan 2014 #19

Yep. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #24

I've said it before, it may also come through pressure from the business community riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #38

The fascinating thing ProSense Jan 2014 #20

power given or power taken FatBuddy Jan 2014 #25

No ProSense Jan 2014 #27

Insurance companies were too powerful, so lets make them more powerful. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #23

The ACA certainly has not made Insurance companies more powerful Schema Thing Jan 2014 #31

yep mm nails it as usual dembotoz Jan 2014 #26

Didn't VT set up single payer using funds from the ACA? Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2014 #28

Not yet Bradical79 Jan 2014 #34

Already-Well-Insured Multi-Millionaire Michael Moore writes from a certain perspective. stopbush Jan 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2014 #46

It's so nice that we can have a corporate government health care system. L0oniX Jan 2014 #35

I wish everybody had and would listen to this man bonzaga Jan 2014 #37

K&R! nt Poll_Blind Jan 2014 #42

We cannot have universal quality health care while stuffing a gorged MIC, a indepat Jan 2014 #45

That couple paying $11,800 in annual premiums snot Jan 2014 #50

not really soryang Jan 2014 #65

Um, I'm just saying, snot Jan 2014 #69

So, is everyone besieging his or her state legislators for state medicare for all? merrily Jan 2014 #51

A much more accurate headline than the other thread on this same topic. nt MADem Jan 2014 #53

Agree ... nt Raine Jan 2014 #55

As Nancy Pelossi says... Stellar Jan 2014 #63

Newsmax Left Out "Godsend" otohara Jan 2014 #68

we can always hope that the plan is iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #70