I'm not sure forcing nations into insurmountable debt so the money can go to American corporations (Reply #103)

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Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:45 PM

103. I'm not sure forcing nations into insurmountable debt so the money can go to American corporations

to build the means to extract that nation's natural resources, while paying a tiny fraction of its worth further enhancing the debt cycle, qualifies as assistance so much as sabotage.

Add that to the fact that most of the places that need help need it because of our actions, and your premise becomes iffy at best.

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140 replies	Author	Time	Post
Biggest Threat to World Peace: The United States [View all]	xchrom	Jan 2014	OP
No brainer.	Scuba	Jan 2014	#1
Ding, ding, we have a winner!	Coyotl	Jan 2014	#9
It would be difficult to agree more	Savannahmann	Jan 2014	#2
Your tax dollars at work.	blkmusclmachine	Jan 2014	#3
Totally and obviously.	bemildred	Jan 2014	#4
one would think...but i keep thinking someone will be smart enough to stop	xchrom	Jan 2014	#6
The basic problem is that taking a moral position can land you sleeping on the street.	bemildred	Jan 2014	#8
+1	xchrom	Jan 2014	#12
That's it, plus oil keeping the dollar propped up. nt	valerief	Jan 2014	#16
Yes, many things contribute to the stability of the old order. It's well dug in.	bemildred	Jan 2014	#19
Jesus plays a big role in keeping the old order. Can't get soldiers without Jesus. nt	valerief	Jan 2014	#21
OK.	bemildred	Jan 2014	#22
I tend to agree.	RC	Jan 2014	#33
Yep, that dying with honor thing always seems to help the very wealthy get richer, too.	valerief	Jan 2014	#64
That is also why concentrating the nation's wealth	Enthusiast	Jan 2014	#112
If you let them grab all the money, they will try to defend it.	bemildred	Jan 2014	#123
Well, a list we're at the top of.	woo me with science	Jan 2014	#5
Amurika--Number 1!!	lastlib	Jan 2014	#26
Christian terrorist gangsters. nt	RandiFan1290	Jan 2014	#7
Bought & paid for polititians	newfie11	Jan 2014	#10
A nation founded on invasion, genocide, slavery, and warfare. What would you expect?	Coyotl	Jan 2014	#11
The US has been a violent country from day one, often inflicting violence at	RKP5637	Jan 2014	#13
K&R....	daleanime	Jan 2014	#14
Yeah, look at the way Obama eagerly waged war in Syria, for example,	Nye Bevan	Jan 2014	#15
He sure wanted to.	RC	Jan 2014	#35
And what brought the Ayatollah to power in Iran, pray tell?	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#61
Precisely...............nt	Enthusiast	Jan 2014	#113
Well, yes and no.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2014	#117
Well first, Obama was trying damn hard to get his war on in Syria	Scootaloo	Jan 2014	#77
Look at the way he expanded and escalated drone strikes.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#127
If We Would Help..Not Hinder	grilled onions	Jan 2014	#17
Until there's a disaster. Then our phone starts ringing off the hook.	7962	Jan 2014	#18
+1	treestar	Jan 2014	#25
All the supposed smart, serious foreign policy writers pound Obama for not intervening more	TwilightGardener	Jan 2014	#37
Exactly, look at the Arab Spring	treestar	Jan 2014	#40
Curious. Would it be like what happened between WW1 and WW2? I think the permanent military stance	freshwest	Jan 2014	#118
This game is no competition to "Where's Waldo?"	rock	Jan 2014	#20
Ridiculous	treestar	Jan 2014	#23
too much eggnog last night?	niyad	Jan 2014	#32
Guess you did have too much.	treestar	Jan 2014	#39
you keep on thinking that. pretty sure none of the groups you mentioned has the biggest military	niyad	Jan 2014	#42
So - those groups use what they do have for bad	treestar	Jan 2014	#43
And by defending "us," you mean	bobclark86	Jan 2014	#45
I'm not that cynical	treestar	Jan 2014	#47
like I said, whatever lets you sleep at night. denial is NOT a riiver in egypt.	niyad	Jan 2014	#49
Reality - what it is with this desire to see everything as	treestar	Jan 2014	#52
Wow	donheld	Jan 2014	#120
+1000. eom	Ranchemp.	Jan 2014	#38
We spend more on "defense"	bobclark86	Jan 2014	#44
We are defending other countries also	treestar	Jan 2014	#48
Yeah, like dictators who do business with America	bobclark86	Jan 2014	#56
+ A shit load!	Enthusiast	Jan 2014	#114
the u.s. military defends the rich, period.	tomp	Jan 2014	#125
1) Chechen separatists are hardly one of the greatest threats to world peace.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#51
All I see here is a desire to blame us for everything	treestar	Jan 2014	#53
Yeah, like no opium production.	bobclark86	Jan 2014	#57
And we had the chance to fix Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#58
67,000 respondents worldwide, and your head is firmly in the sand.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2014	#71
Nailed It.	bvar22	Jan 2014	#104
Ah yes. "Anti-American," and "blame america first"	Scootaloo	Jan 2014	#79
let's see--who the hell TRAINED osama bin laden and began the al-qaeda group?? oh, yes, that	niyad	Jan 2014	#106
Thank you.	jessie04	Jan 2014	#60
+1	totodeinhere	Jan 2014	#110
Just another thing that	sorefeet	Jan 2014	#24
We're number one!	Vashta Nerada	Jan 2014	#27
More Americans need to understand why we rank on top, so we can work together to get	Jefferson23	Jan 2014	#28
k/r	marmar	Jan 2014	#29
Unrestrained International Corporations	HoosierCowboy	Jan 2014	#30
In a short period of less than 75 years, we went from saving the world	mountain grammy	Jan 2014	#31
But, but, but we had to keep the dominoes from falling and the world safe for democracy	indepat	Jan 2014	#82
Sure, because there's no governing body that can tell the US Government no	The2ndWheel	Jan 2014	#34
No surprise here. nt	avebury	Jan 2014	#36
America cant win.. if we do too much we get bashed..if we do too little we also get bashed.	DCBob	Jan 2014	#41
+1	treestar	Jan 2014	#54
The Chinese and Russians must be loving this.	DCBob	Jan 2014	#62
These OTT exaggerators are	treestar	Jan 2014	#67
So in your estimation,	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#66
No. But I guess you are saying it'd be OK to have them all under Kim Jong Un?	treestar	Jan 2014	#68
So what do you suggest we do with North Korea?	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#75
I think the point was limited to how evil we are for	treestar	Jan 2014	#85
I'm not arguing that the Korean War shouldn't have been fought.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#93
Koreans did not "ask" for US "help".	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#76
The Russians administered NK and us SK	treestar	Jan 2014	#86
If you really want to place the blame on a divided Korea then blame Japan	davidpdx	Jan 2014	#115
It was not Japanese bombers that destroyed Korea during the Korean War,	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#119
I know who both of them are	davidpdx	Jan 2014	#121
Biggest Threat to World Peace: The United States	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#131
South Korea has a free and fairly elected democratic system	davidpdx	Jan 2014	#136
I agree that S. Korea is a democratic system.	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#137
I never claimed it was a democratically elected system	davidpdx	Jan 2014	#138
"twenty percent of the population of Korea"	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#140
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2014	#133
Tell it to the rest of the world. That's who calls us a threat.	Comrade Grumpy	Jan 2014	#92
The rest of the world, like Canada	treestar	Jan 2014	#96
"Do nothing and everything is done." Lao Tse	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2014	#70
can you flesh this out	DonCoquixote	Jan 2014	#83
We have "done" a lot in Korea, and the Kim family is still there.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2014	#89
The kims are in Pyonhyang	DonCoquixote	Jan 2014	#91
So, what do you suggest we "do"?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2014	#94
for one	DonCoquixote	Jan 2014	#95
So we quit trying?	treestar	Jan 2014	#97
"A strange game. The only way to win is not to play." - W.O.P.E.R.	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2014	#101
It's 2014, not 1944.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#128
It's partly a bad thing.	gulliver	Jan 2014	#46
K&R!	MrMickeysMom	Jan 2014	#50
The Military Industrial Complex is/has been in control.	democratisphere	Jan 2014	#55
No surprise there! n/t	2naSalit	Jan 2014	#59
We are the terrorist of the world. (Sung to the tune "We are the Champions" - Queen)	L0oniX	Jan 2014	#63
To many (most?) US citizens,	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#65
And even at that, how many of those actions have backfired on us?	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#72
Absolutely.	ronnie624	Jan 2014	#78
We're Number One! We're Number One! We're Number One!	progressoid	Jan 2014	#69
LOL	Savannahmann	Jan 2014	#73
The USA feeds and assists more countries than any other nation	seveneyes	Jan 2014	#74
And yet with some changes in the way we do things, maybe they wouldn't need the assistance	Scootaloo	Jan 2014	#80
If we are so responsible for every damn thing,	treestar	Jan 2014	#98
Comes with being a world superpower dedicated to militarism and hypercapitalism, Treestar	Scootaloo	Jan 2014	#100
Link for that claim?	moondust	Jan 2014	#84
In terms of the absolute value of aid given, the United States is the world's top donor by far.	seveneyes	Jan 2014	#87
I'm not sure forcing nations into insurmountable debt so the money can go to American corporations	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2014	#103
This is no surprise at all.	hrmjustin	Jan 2014	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	Dash87	Jan 2014	#88
heh, look how low Saudi Arabia ended up!	MisterP	Jan 2014	#90
It's relative.	Hosnon	Jan 2014	#99
Bias poll... They're asking the people we're bombing. That's just dumb.	penultimate	Jan 2014	#102
I hope you're kidding.... because thats pretty funny.	bvar22	Jan 2014	#107
This poll oversampled racist hater libertarians.	OnyxCollie	Jan 2014	#105
K&R	Jamastiene	Jan 2014	#108
As for me.....	DeSwiss	Jan 2014	#109
Well, it's true.............nt	Enthusiast	Jan 2014	#111
Our old enemy Vietnam thinks it's China as do most of the WestPac rim nations.	4bucksagallon	Jan 2014	#116
In the world today I agree. Moving forward though...	Locut0s	Jan 2014	#122
Our biggest exports are	The Wizard	Jan 2014	#124
Biggest hope, too	BeyondGeography	Jan 2014	#126
We spend almost as much on our military as the rest of the world.	Captain Stern	Jan 2014	#129
When we stop focusing on the military industrial complex	liberal N proud	Jan 2014	#130
Biggest threat to world peace?	panader0	Jan 2014	#132
BLOOD FOR PROFIT.	woo me with science	Jan 2014	#134
You know, I like Srar Wars...	NealK	Jan 2014	#135
Now ask which country they'd want to come help them after a natural disaster.	JoePhilly	Jan 2014	#139

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