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Crepuscular

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66. Nobody is suggesting that Wolves be exterminated
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jan 2014

in the context of the Wolf hunt in Michigan, which is the topic of this thread. The links you provided make for some entertaining reading but they largely deal with whether wolves should be treated as an endangered species. Wolves don't meet the criteria for that in Michigan, which is why they were de-listed. Frankly, whether they should be reintroduced in the Scottish Highlands or what has occurred in Alaska or Yellowstone is not really germane to this discussion, other than for mild curiosity.

The question is should wolves be managed as other wildlife populations are managed and if the answer to that question is yes, then the next question is who should be responsible for managing that population.

In Michigan, the legislature has decided that the Natural Resources Commission should be the ones who have jurisdiction over managing wolves as a population. The NRC looked at the negative interaction that has occurred and came up with a plan that could reduce that negative interaction in 3 specific areas of the UP, while at the same time posing no threat to the sustainability or viability of the Wolf population in the UP. That plan set a quota for removing just over 5% of the Wolf population and resulted in around 3% of the existing population being removed. I understand that some people want zero Wolves to be killed, just like some people want zero deer to be killed or zero Cows to be turned into Big Macs and they will never be willing to accept anything but total protection an allowing the population to expand indefinitely, regardless of any potentially negative consequences. But part of responsible Wildlife management is to evaluate populations and set reasonable limits for their maintenance. That is essentially what has occurred in Michigan.

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Three words. liberalmuse Dec 2013 #1
Beat ya! Wisconsin killed 250 this year. With dogs too! postulater Dec 2013 #2
disgusting G_j Dec 2013 #4
Horrific. catbyte Dec 2013 #12
Yes, but more so for the dogs than the wolves. Drahthaardogs Jan 2014 #55
Takes a very sick person to do this. Makes me ashamed of my State. Scuba Dec 2013 #5
maybe they could just legalize dog fighting too G_j Dec 2013 #6
no thanks to Obama btw G_j Dec 2013 #3
Terrible Beringia Dec 2013 #7
I was already having a bad migraine day and reading this just made it worse Tyrs WolfDaemon Dec 2013 #8
I agree totally. We Anishinaabe see wolves as our brothers. This is murder. catbyte Dec 2013 #10
So you are Ok Crepuscular Dec 2013 #13
why don't you give us some statistics G_j Dec 2013 #14
According Crepuscular Dec 2013 #18
wolf depredation on domestic animals in Wisconsin and Michigan G_j Dec 2013 #19
Oh, please. That is just an excuse for sick bastards to kill for fun & profit. catbyte Dec 2013 #16
According to the farmers Crepuscular Dec 2013 #17
The farmers don't have significant losses Beringia Dec 2013 #20
That may be your opinion Crepuscular Dec 2013 #23
It is your opinion 30 animals is significant Beringia Dec 2013 #25
I didn't say that number was significant Crepuscular Dec 2013 #31
do those animals live in packs which can easily colapse G_j Dec 2013 #32
Since you are holding yourself out as an expert Crepuscular Dec 2013 #33
sorry, I don't have time tonight G_j Dec 2013 #34
not an expert, just interested G_j Jan 2014 #65
Nobody is suggesting that Wolves be exterminated Crepuscular Jan 2014 #66
if nothing else, I thought this addressed our discussion of the pack unit, G_j Jan 2014 #67
You were discussing the pack unit Crepuscular Jan 2014 #68
Professional wildlife managers Beringia Dec 2013 #35
In Michigan Crepuscular Dec 2013 #38
They want to get their gun off nilesobek Jan 2014 #53
Rural life. So what's your issue? n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #41
Do you mind me asking Jenoch Dec 2013 #28
Beausoleil First Nation in Ontario catbyte Dec 2013 #39
I have heard the the word Anishinaabe Jenoch Jan 2014 #61
The Beausoleil Band is Ojibwe, although in Michigan, all 3 tribes of the catbyte Jan 2014 #62
Reading through the comments, I never expected to cause so much discussion Tyrs WolfDaemon Jan 2014 #63
No reason for more empathic reprecussions from dogs than deer seveneyes Dec 2013 #49
Are you calling Wolves Dogs? Tyrs WolfDaemon Jan 2014 #56
So far, so good. Crepuscular Dec 2013 #9
Hunters are not the best way to manage wildlife Beringia Dec 2013 #22
Baloney Crepuscular Dec 2013 #24
You are full of baloney Beringia Dec 2013 #26
Then why are deer populations Crepuscular Dec 2013 #29
Not true. Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #36
Do you want to provide some Crepuscular Jan 2014 #54
Yes, deer population peaked in the 2002-03 season. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #58
Maybe I missed it Crepuscular Jan 2014 #59
You know as well as I do Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #60
You made a claim regarding the deer population Crepuscular Jan 2014 #64
They said they were "disappointed"in the low number. They blamed the cold. catbyte Dec 2013 #11
Here's the national tally... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #15
Do you know what part of the website Beringia Dec 2013 #21
Indeed 2naSalit Dec 2013 #42
Maybe you need a hunt for better legislators. They seem to be a Cleita Dec 2013 #27
Agree 2naSalit Dec 2013 #43
Tell me about speaking the truth to people who don't want to hear it, Cleita Dec 2013 #44
Somehow 2naSalit Dec 2013 #45
Thank you. Cleita Dec 2013 #47
This is said purely out of anger and probably won't go well but I need to say it Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #30
Sure would be an eye opener 2naSalit Dec 2013 #46
Chickenshits are obvious chickenshits. flvegan Dec 2013 #48
Just what I been thinking riverbendviewgal Dec 2013 #37
we care alright, just about the bottom line though neverforget Dec 2013 #40
"He’s reached out to experts in Montana and Canada for tips....." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #57
I'm trying to imagine what kind of man puts this beautiful creature in his cross hair firsttimer Dec 2013 #50
They are magnificent, aren't they? Ever hear a wolf pack howling? catbyte Dec 2013 #51
Yes, I have firsttimer Jan 2014 #52
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