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20. Or crew's been working too long due to delays elsewhere

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 02:46 AM

Jan 2014

Federal law limits how long a crew can work (I don't know about anyone else, but I like having fresh, awake pilots in the plane) so if an incoming flight is delayed the crew may legally no longer be allowed to fly.

On a flight from SFO to Hawai'i earlier this year, a passenger had a medical emergency that made the pilot return to SFO. Because of the turn-around, and the time it took to refuel and reinspect the plane, the crew went into overtime so we had to wait until a new crew was located. And then they had to re-do all the pre-flight checkoffs. (At least United did feed us when we finally left, and they made sure the dogs being transported were walked and watered.)

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How is it possible that my flight was delayed for not having a crew? [View all] Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 OP

Crew called off due to holidays darkangel218 Jan 2014 #1

Or crew's been working too long due to delays elsewhere Retrograde Jan 2014 #20

"I'm a little over weight, and the log book's way behind" Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #45

Was the crew coming from a different flight that was delayed? Also, it doesn't have too be an okaawhatever Jan 2014 #2

She didn't tell me anything. She just bit my head off. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #6

When you work customer service in the transport industry FrodosPet Jan 2014 #22

As someone who has worked in retail... Locut0s Jan 2014 #34

If I managed the airline, I would re-train her and if she didn't improve, I would fire her. bluestate10 Jan 2014 #59

Nice sentiment, but the pay for airline employees has SheilaT Jan 2014 #63

You ticked off a list of problems that airlines have largely created for themselves. bluestate10 Jan 2014 #67

But, and this is a huge but, they are not paid well. SheilaT Jan 2014 #75

wish i got a vacation at all, 5X Jan 2014 #80

I am sorry your work life is what you've indicated. SheilaT Jan 2014 #81

"My final form of anger" lol... Locut0s Jan 2014 #33

Dragonball Z sakabatou Jan 2014 #35

Exactly! :) nt. Locut0s Jan 2014 #36

The airline scheduled more flights than they could staff. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #3

And they are too fucking cheap to have standby crews that are kept under their flight hours bluestate10 Jan 2014 #60

True that lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #62

Southwest doesn't stand above the rest anymore onenote Jan 2014 #71

That's happened to me, too. kcr Jan 2014 #4

Last year my flight was repeatedly delayed and then finally cancelled tblue37 Jan 2014 #5

A few things could have happened. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #7

I flew into SFO the day after Christmas. Fridays Child Jan 2014 #8

Between the fog, the runways and the traffic SFO is always kinda dicey, in my experience. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #9

Flown out of SFO dozens of times... gcomeau Jan 2014 #28

SFO is often fogged in, it does not matter what your destination is when the fog is on Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #44

Could of been a number of reasons: Revanchist Jan 2014 #10

Oh Good Dear! HangOnKids Jan 2014 #11

Besides it being a holiday, with the usual holiday hysteria... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #12

Amen! The people at the ticket desk or boarding gate didn't cause the problem. My story - SharonAnn Jan 2014 #76

There can be a lot of reasons jberryhill Jan 2014 #13

It's total BS. They can always fly using... pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #14

Total win. Agschmid Jan 2014 #16

I thought Otto worked for us? William769 Jan 2014 #52

a laugh and a spit take while drinking ...you got me good. :) TeamPooka Jan 2014 #23

"Our crew has been delayed in Miami." LOL from passengers. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #46

This happened to a friend of mine tonight. He's in Detroit, crew is in Milwaukee... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #15

Looking at the SFO flight board... jberryhill Jan 2014 #17

There were evidently three United flights canceled out of Madison WI today. Weather. calimary Jan 2014 #19

I saw on the teevee machine 630 flights at O'Hare canceled today. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2014 #25

That'll do it jberryhill Jan 2014 #40

Try following the weather. The entire country has been in a steady stream of huge LuckyLib Jan 2014 #18

When I Read This Post I Kept Thinking HangOnKids Jan 2014 #24

Infrequent fliers... TeamPooka Jan 2014 #31

Yup. And there should be a separate security line for them LuckyLib Jan 2014 #73

In any airport, rent a car or hotel situation being sympathetic is more productive than being pissed TeamPooka Jan 2014 #21

Thank you FrodosPet Jan 2014 #26

I had a very similar experience flying from Dallas to Chicago at christmas-time... truebrit71 Jan 2014 #69

honey vs vinegar. only one works on people. nt TeamPooka Jan 2014 #74

What EXACTLY did you say to her, and then what EXACTLY did she say in return Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #27

I asked her if we actually had a crew assigned... Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #39

The tone argument again. pintobean Jan 2014 #42

Well - that sounds pretty sarcastic to me. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #49

INFLUENZA is grounding some flight crews grasswire Jan 2014 #29

That happend to me once too bluestateguy Jan 2014 #32

All it takes is for one person not to show up, not the entire crew. MADem Jan 2014 #37

Your crew could have been working a flight that was delayed Motown_Johnny Jan 2014 #38

There's a nasty flu going around, and it's been impacting pilot availability. Codeine Jan 2014 #41

A case of Affluenza? Glassunion Jan 2014 #43

Flying a plane is just another job seveneyes Jan 2014 #47

if the crew is commuting from texas and got delayed... AngryAmish Jan 2014 #48

How is it possible? MineralMan Jan 2014 #50

There have been many delays for weather Marrah_G Jan 2014 #51

probably weather related bowens43 Jan 2014 #53

If you had to fly a plane for minimum wage, you'd call off too! Orrex Jan 2014 #54

Does it matter why? quakerboy Jan 2014 #55

so you rent a car yet? snooper2 Jan 2014 #56

pilot over his monthly max hours alc Jan 2014 #57

I've spent too much time in my life LWolf Jan 2014 #58

Easy malaise Jan 2014 #61

Like just about every single company out there, SheilaT Jan 2014 #64

Years ago I was stuck in Indianapolis (on the way to SFO) salin Jan 2014 #65

USAir merged with American, not United. onenote Jan 2014 #72

How is this even a question? Brickbat Jan 2014 #66

I live in Indianapolis. Brigid Jan 2014 #68

On a recent international trip, 5 of my 6 flights were delayed Retrograde Jan 2014 #70

In case you hadn't noticed 2naSalit Jan 2014 #77

Its happened to me 3 times with United Express. Historic NY Jan 2014 #78

How is it possible? You're flying United, aren't you? Th1onein Jan 2014 #79

Probably something between the weather and the new crew flight rules. KatyaR Jan 2014 #82