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25. No, and you can still smoke in some bars there anyway

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:59 PM

Jan 2014

Like in Bakersfield. They just have a separate room. Some bars just ignore the ban (like here in Ohio). When the ban went into effect in CA I was living in Tehachapi, CA. Went to the bar and they gave people beer bottles to use, they got rid of the ashtrays.

I generally don't go to bars so could care less in that regards - but I do value people having choices. Don't want to go to a bar that allows smoking? Go to one that does not. Choice - it used to be a progressive ideal.

Places you have to go? Supermarket, doctor, bus, plane, hospital? Fine. No one has to go to a bar. Or a smoke shop. A simple middle ground that allows adults to make their own choices.

Freedom of choice is a big deal to some folks. I have fits when I am around perfumes, have since I was kid. Not asking to ban them (no one really needs them do they?) Stand in a garage for two hours with a car running and you will probably die, do the same in a garage with someone smoking and you won't. I am guessing many pro banners are not selling their cars and taking bikes.

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The Beginning Of The End Of Prohibition [View all] kpete Jan 2014 OP

Agreed with 5 years to legalization .... MindMover Jan 2014 #1

Now when I watch "Cops" and see em bust for weed I think WTF ...its legal now. L0oniX Jan 2014 #46

Five-to-ten years, IF we keep a Democrat in the White House... regnaD kciN Jan 2014 #93

Think of how our prison population will drop! JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #2

That's one side. There's also the other side jeff47 Jan 2014 #3

They've got the machinery to package cigarettes, and the factories ready to roll, as it were. MADem Jan 2014 #9

I saw a video where they said the Big Tobacco Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #11

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a mixed format, there. MADem Jan 2014 #14

Years ago when I was in college... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2014 #49

and that's okay if you only have the funds for a ragweed type of item but when you Hestia Jan 2014 #57

With it legal in Colorado, there should be blanket pardons for anyone... OnlinePoker Jan 2014 #5

The prison population wont drop. The for-profit prison industry will get rhett o rick Jan 2014 #7

I think that money from Big Pharma and Big Private Prison Industry will help truedelphi Jan 2014 #37

There are not a lot of pot people in prison. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #23

when will Obama go to Colorado and fire up? RussBLib Jan 2014 #4

When it's legal at the federal level, perhaps. Not before. nt MADem Jan 2014 #10

The first step is legalization, the next is to make it mandatory for politicians Major Nikon Jan 2014 #72

I would bet that everyone in that line has had a stash. SCVDem Jan 2014 #6

"I would test positive and not get hired." Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #27

Get a job inserting newspapers jmowreader Jan 2014 #32

It will be replaced by banning cigs and guns The Straight Story Jan 2014 #8

Actually banning cigs in many places edhopper Jan 2014 #12

We have? Pot is also linked to causing cancer as well The Straight Story Jan 2014 #16

From the CDC edhopper Jan 2014 #18

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer The Straight Story Jan 2014 #21

Complete garbage. Prohibition doesn't work. You shoudl probably just accept that Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #26

Yes it does edhopper Jan 2014 #29

Oh really. How many people are not heroin addicts today because they can't get any heroin? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #30

Won't ended it edhopper Jan 2014 #31

Perfectly demonstrating my point. You keep saying this as if somehow the repetition Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #33

An addict has an addictive personality disorder. An alcoholic robbob Jan 2014 #51

No, not at all. My argument is that prohibition is not only ineffective, but exacerbates the Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #53

Ther is no such thing as addictive personality disorder Fiendish Thingy Jan 2014 #56

It's the cost SCVDem Jan 2014 #34

Prohibition doesn't work unless you happen to be the executive of some Big Private truedelphi Jan 2014 #38

Yes indeed. It works very well for them. Come to think of it, prohibition works to make Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #39

is it really such a burden for you step outside for two fucking minutes for your smoke? frylock Jan 2014 #24

No, and you can still smoke in some bars there anyway The Straight Story Jan 2014 #25

Working with smokers SCVDem Jan 2014 #28

many pro banners actually use their cars to go to work so that they can survive.. frylock Jan 2014 #36

Like gaming (state lotteries), legal weed JEB Jan 2014 #13

Other states BobUp Jan 2014 #15

If enough states legalize Mariana Jan 2014 #45

Possibly, BobUp Jan 2014 #47

What do you think the slippery slope will lead to? Mariana Jan 2014 #48

I don't really know BobUp Jan 2014 #50

Most if not all states already prohibit driving while impaired Mariana Jan 2014 #52

The biggest problem with DWI testing plantwomyn Jan 2014 #74

The very first court case with a lawyer of any merit at all. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #82

You are aware that people smoked in those professions long before private industry drug Hestia Jan 2014 #58

Who gives a damn what they want their employees to do off hours? Slavery is over. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #61

Matters to some, BobUp Jan 2014 #73

So you think your employer can demand that you do not drink? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #79

Actually BobUp Jan 2014 #83

no not "on the job" - "off the job". Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #84

Original question; So you think your employer can demand that you do not drink? BobUp Jan 2014 #85

I was responding to this: Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #86

We have enough BobUp Jan 2014 #87

Alaska and Oregon should go this year, via the initiative process. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #17

Hunh?... Wait..Wut...? bvar22 Jan 2014 #19

It's a conspiracy theory. Why, I just exploded over here, and no one arrested me. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #59

What will the corporate prisons do without all those inmates? AllyCat Jan 2014 #20

Dominoes will fall, because---wait for it---money talks! WinkyDink Jan 2014 #22

I can only hope this OP is correct. blackspade Jan 2014 #35

Agreed. Marriage rights and more RainDog Jan 2014 #40

Surreal! Yet Cha Jan 2014 #41

You can tell it's the beginning of the end Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #42

Sad time to be a criminal or a member of a drug cartel. . B Calm Jan 2014 #43

You would think that he era of Prohibition would have taught us something. olegramps Jan 2014 #44

Just wait DebbieCDC Jan 2014 #54

States will want that tax money. oldandhappy Jan 2014 #55

Pot ban ending, tobacco ban starting. Expect similar results. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #60

I'm all for Marijuana being legalized. Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #62

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Let me tell you the story of a friend Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #65

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Thanks for the link. Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #67

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They got the go ahead in California Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #69

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I agree. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #71

There is an initiative circulating in Alaska right now. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #75

What's important about CO is it sets up the legal framework for production to consumption Major Nikon Jan 2014 #77

All the ancillary actives are indeed Federal felonies..."manufacturing", distributing, Romulox Jan 2014 #80

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It was *technically* correct, but also deceptive. Romulox Jan 2014 #90

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By a clone... nikto Jan 2014 #64

All of the prohibition BS is going to be exposed as BS. gulliver Jan 2014 #76

I hope he is correct. I wish all the fricking culture wars would end so merrily Jan 2014 #78

Of course Presidents Clinton and Obama have both been dedicated to the War on Drugs. We delude Romulox Jan 2014 #81

I sure hope so Locrian Jan 2014 #88

Bad news for drug cartels, criminals and the ones who profit B Calm Jan 2014 #91