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polly7

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387. Of course not.

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:46 PM

Jan 2014

I've never in my life presumed to tell ANYONE what she or he should be outraged about.

Either you're deliberately missing the point, or you're trying to further your hate war (which from your post below, I now fully believe to be the case).

My only concern in all of this is allowing opinions from every side (as long as they're not full of bigotry and hate themselves - those should, and are ppr'd thank goodness) to be able to express themselves without being made to feel guilty for it, or called names - as I have been, over and over.

What do you think of me, a rape and DV survivor being called a rape-apologist?

What do you think of other women here voicing an opinion being called good old dogs that just live for the occasional pat on the head???

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] oldhippie Jan 2014 OP

I wonder how many posters who say they are "not whining" Tanuki Jan 2014 #1

+ struggle4progress Jan 2014 #118

Unlike NSA spying or ACA, the gender issue is very personal and sometimes painful, and.... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #2

Alert stalkers? NoOneMan Jan 2014 #3

That was absolutely ridiculous. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #6

Well that's another thing too. A DUer posts something and others come along and Cleita Jan 2014 #8

It certainly makes DU a hostile place NoOneMan Jan 2014 #12

Even if you avoid sarcasm and state what you mean in explicit terms Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #16

That is one of my biggest peeves. polly7 Jan 2014 #22

+1 zappaman Jan 2014 #204

If it weren't for that particular poster's history of tasteless, offensive "jokes" NuclearDem Jan 2014 #13

Still doesn't change the fact that context has meaning and words Cleita Jan 2014 #14

How is a pattern of behavior not context? Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #76

+1 xulamaude Jan 2014 #52

Just one of dozens of examples I've seen and received. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #18

Good and thoughtful post. Cleita Jan 2014 #4

Good! I was typing as fast as I could.... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #5

Hidden posts does seem to be the object for some. RC Jan 2014 #7

Gosh,this thread sure went from innocent question sufrommich Jan 2014 #9

No one is bashing DUers. It's an honest discussion of the possibility of alert trolls. Cleita Jan 2014 #34

Post #7 takes the OP out of context and perverts it's meaning. sufrommich Jan 2014 #56

You don't have to wonder, do the math! snooper2 Jan 2014 #10

Doesn't matter. DU is so overrun by imbedded trolls, statistics would be meaningless. onehandle Jan 2014 #11

^^^THIS^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #36

You are not a troll, sockpuppet, stalker, nor a combination of the three. onehandle Jan 2014 #41

yes. - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #43

There is a ton of bad faith alerting going on in those threads quinnox Jan 2014 #15

Alerts need to have user names attached to them. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #17

The admins know, so those who are playing games with the alerting can be found out quinnox Jan 2014 #19

What would you replace it with? Cleita Jan 2014 #21

Not sure - maybe bring back mods or, maybe a free for all quinnox Jan 2014 #23

I've participated in free for all boards and it ends up with all the Cleita Jan 2014 #29

I'm not sure. All I know is you are going to see a DU bloodbath with lots of duers frozen out quinnox Jan 2014 #47

I agree with that. Some of them are already arriving on this thread. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #57

Skinner seems to disagree. FSogol Jan 2014 #229

That is fine, I respect his opinion. I think it will be interesting to watch and see what happens quinnox Jan 2014 #454

I've seen this as well Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #157

To date, has this phenomemon of "alert-stalking" been confirmed? Orrex Jan 2014 #25

yep, I had it confirmed, personally quinnox Jan 2014 #27

How? Orrex Jan 2014 #28

Post 19 confirms it Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #33

Confirms it how? Orrex Jan 2014 #44

I think if a member constantly responds to your posts by attacking you and not or barely seaglass Jan 2014 #65

Fair enough, but simply replying does not constitute stalking, correct? Orrex Jan 2014 #183

I sure as shit hope you don't mean this one, pal. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #151

4-2. Some think 5-1 constitutes alert trolling Major Nikon Jan 2014 #233

"Some"? Really? Stay on topic. That post I was referring to was textbook disruption. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #234

So are a lot of the posts around here which don't get hidden Major Nikon Jan 2014 #243

In context as a reply to someone claiming to be a "victim"? No. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #248

Perhaps Major Nikon Jan 2014 #261

Skinner confirmed that there aren't as many alerts as you'd like to think. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #263

6:1 ratio on alerts vs hides Major Nikon Jan 2014 #271

ugh, really... look again "The alert stalking claim is bogus." PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #273

That's the post I was referring to Major Nikon Jan 2014 #278

You did? William769 Jan 2014 #196

It exists. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #96

That's anecdote. Orrex Jan 2014 #134

Yes it is anecdotal but I have gotten complaints. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #139

Here's a question: Orrex Jan 2014 #152

No. If a post is hidden it is because 4 to 6 people said hide it. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #189

We have received the official confirmation Orrex Jan 2014 #209

He knows more than I. I can only say what I get told and shown. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #218

Skinner's response on alert stalking: tammywammy Jan 2014 #158

Skinner is totally stalking me. Orrex Jan 2014 #173

ATA: Skinner: "The alert stalking claim is bogus." Cerridwen Jan 2014 #171

Don't put words in the Admins mouths. Skinner said it's bogus. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #162

More than that, there should be consequences for frivolous alerting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #20

That could be something to think about. Cleita Jan 2014 #24

Same here, it has to be completely obvious for me to bother. OTOH, I've been on dozens of juries Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #31

How might we police "frivolous alerting?" Orrex Jan 2014 #51

Developing a system to find and track this behavior would be very simple. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #69

"this behavior" Orrex Jan 2014 #122

The admins can track alert stats. They've said multiple times there's no serial alerters. n/t tammywammy Jan 2014 #137

There already is jberryhill Jan 2014 #125

Well, that would seem to solve the problem entirely. Orrex Jan 2014 #143

One would think so jberryhill Jan 2014 #146

yep, or limit alerts to one a week or something, not unlimited quinnox Jan 2014 #26

+1 NoOneMan Jan 2014 #35

Jury members have the ability xulamaude Jan 2014 #60

Yes because some men presume to tell women how to feel about these issues... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #30

I see a lot of that as some men presuming to give opinions polly7 Jan 2014 #32

they ARE telling them how to feel...do not fool yourself into thinking otherwise... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #37

No worries, I'm no fool and have been discussing important issues such as polly7 Jan 2014 #50

then you should know better.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #72

Don't talk to me like I'm some kind of naive, innocent little child you're trying to polly7 Jan 2014 #231

then do not talk to me like I am one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #232

I think if you'd take the time to read the responses of men polly7 Jan 2014 #236

I don't NEED to know what they think about my place in the world VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #239

We all live with some unfairness, in one form or another. polly7 Jan 2014 #245

THAT doesn't answer the question VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #247

Ok, well then, screw your question. You have no intention of actually hearing polly7 Jan 2014 #249

No I have no intention of listening to men tell me what it is like to be a woman.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #252

You hear exactly what you want to hear. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #254

Do you expect African Americans to listen to White people tell them VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #258

Men don't tell women that here. polly7 Jan 2014 #260

OH YES they have.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #262

If opinions aren't allowed then keep it in HoF. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #266

are White people's opinions for African Americans allowed? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #269

Yes, anybody in GD is allowed to have an opinion. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #292

they can have those opinions on how it is to be an African American VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #295

They can have an opinion on those topics, yes. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #324

Yesterday right here on DU VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #327

Ok, I see what you mean. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #345

when you tell me that my reaction is "out of proportion" YES VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #357

Both men and women can overreact, it is a human quality not just female. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #369

But YOU as a White male do not get to decide for a Black person what is or isn't an VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #373

It's an over reaction in the opinion holder's opinion. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #422

You keep citing something that nobody has seen Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #326

It happened to ME... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #329

I haven't seen it. polly7 Jan 2014 #270

that could be your malfunction right there... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #272

I have a malfunction!?! polly7 Jan 2014 #274

apparently you do have one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #275

No, I don't. polly7 Jan 2014 #277

Yeah actually you do... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #279

Well you know what you can do with your own 'malfunction'. polly7 Jan 2014 #281

My "malfunctions" weren't being questioned.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #282

You spin more than my washing machine on laundry day. Try harder please. polly7 Jan 2014 #285

and you cannot answer a simple question VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #291

I'm a woman. polly7 Jan 2014 #297

So? What's your point? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #316

I guess it flew over your head. polly7 Jan 2014 #320

If there were one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #361

Right...just in this thread... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #286

Awwwies. polly7 Jan 2014 #288

are you denying it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #293

No, I'm not being victimized. polly7 Jan 2014 #298

YES Here! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #300

Ok, you win. This is a horrible, misogynistic site where women are not safe polly7 Jan 2014 #302

hyperbole much? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #304

That's exactly what you're implying. I agreed. We're good now. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #308

No I didn't "imply" anything... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #310

Really? polly7 Jan 2014 #315

I don't tell people how to "see" things... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #416

and as a matter of fact.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #309

I'm a Canadian. polly7 Jan 2014 #312

did I say that? No I didn't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #314

You were bitching about me a Canadian here. polly7 Jan 2014 #318

No I wasn't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #321

Ya you were bitching about it. Go alert. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #322

Nope...no curse words...no insults...that would be YOUR department. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #323

ALERT! Do something instead of constant complaining, ffs. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #328

I don't have to...I rarely do...why? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #330

Beyond boring. Sorry, I've had enough of you. Good luck with someone else. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #333

Yeah....that's what they always say.... when they are proven wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #335

No, it's what 'I' say when I'm beyond bored. I don't see a reason to lie about being bored. polly7 Jan 2014 #340

Yes you can be bored...AND wrong at the same time.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #343

Not today though!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #349

apparently so...you proclaimed it yourself. I didn't deem it appropriate VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #352

Polly's nationality has nothing to do with this... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #348

I love you Violet. polly7 Jan 2014 #350

Right back at ya, polly! Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #351

Can you tell a woman in Darfur what it is like to be one there? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #355

Again, I haven't seen polly tell you what you feel as an American woman n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #362

it has nothing to do with that...it was a analogy... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #363

What a freaking LIE that is!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #370

NO I haven't .... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #371

You said 'I' told you men should be allowed to tell you what to think and feel as a woman. polly7 Jan 2014 #378

this is what you have been saying all along... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #380

No, that's a lie. An ugly one, too. polly7 Jan 2014 #383

the truth can be ugly polly VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #385

Your lies are the ugliest of the ugly. Believe me. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #389

that's like....your opinion man... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #394

Nah, your posts don't disappear because you want them to. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #395

NOR do yours.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #398

Thank god they don't. polly7 Jan 2014 #400

No you have not answered the questions I have asked all along VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #402

Sorry, asked and answered - twice. polly7 Jan 2014 #406

NO you didn't answer....you can lie about it all you want VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #407

Go back and READ. LOL! Good grief, like a freaking post! nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #409

been reading all along... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #410

birds of a feather and all that.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #358

Us DUers who aren't American women do tend to stick together! n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #364

so? How does that change anything? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #366

I was responding to yr 'birds of a feather' line Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #372

but how does that have anything to do with the issue we are discussing VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #375

Women are women. polly7 Jan 2014 #376

baloney...being a woman doesn't mean you have cornered the market VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #382

Of course not. polly7 Jan 2014 #387

then why are men on DU allowed to? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #390

I don't bring it up to give myself props either ....... what a fucking piece of work you are. polly7 Jan 2014 #393

Yes you did as it wasn't relevant to this discussion at all? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #396

I've answered those questions twice already, as well as many others. polly7 Jan 2014 #399

No you haven't answered... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #404

Answered. Bored. Hungry. Not impressed by your fear of questions you find uncomfortable. polly7 Jan 2014 #408

afraid of you????? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #417

Deliberate denseness is also a bore. polly7 Jan 2014 #425

do what? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #430

Your FEAR. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #431

I have no fear...where on earth do you get the impression that I would VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #433

That's like three times you've tried to say that I said you had fear for me. polly7 Jan 2014 #436

You have accused me of being afraid of you several times VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #442

A LIE. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #445

No its not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #447

NSS!!!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #449

I am not afraid at all...YOU don't answer mine... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #450

You are ridiculous. Go stalk someone else, polly7 Jan 2014 #452

You keep replying to my posts...if you are sick then stop... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #456

I never said ANYTHING about women VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #443

'I' asked you about treatment of women. Three times. polly7 Jan 2014 #446

I am NOT afraid...I was NOT talking ABOUT women in this discussion VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #448

Well it's not just YOU in this conversation, IS IT? polly7 Jan 2014 #451

why don't you do the same...you keep finding other things to reply too... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #453

I was making a POINT VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #353

It's a flawed point... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #360

No in fact it is not... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #368

Yeah, it looks like it is a flawed point... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #374

YES she has.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #377

They didn't happen. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #379

actually that HAS been my point all along VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #420

Just on principle, after seeing how you lie and twist things, I probably shouldn't agree with polly7 Jan 2014 #426

please prove where I lied VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #435

READ your posts! polly7 Jan 2014 #437

I have read them ....I wrote them.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #439

Don't waste any more time with that one, VR. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #301

You are right Sheldon....they just REFUSE to see the forest for the trees... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #303

No use for what, to convince me that all polly7 Jan 2014 #306

I was told to "STFU" yesterday by men on DU... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #325

I hope you alerted. polly7 Jan 2014 #331

why should I? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #334

I would never tell you to STFU ... 1000words Jan 2014 #346

You are welcome...but my feelings are certainly not hurt! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #388

And now you've told polly and Violet to STFU. opiate69 Jan 2014 #411

Where did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #412

... opiate69 Jan 2014 #415

Holy cow you are toxic Egnever Jan 2014 #305

that's like... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #313

I second that opinion. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #359

Of course you do... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #381

Nobody should be called "toxic",nobody. sufrommich Jan 2014 #365

And alerts and hides are down on DU because everyone's behavior has gotten so positive! seaglass Jan 2014 #392

The cognitive dissonance displayed by sufrommich Jan 2014 #397

Well multiple juries have told me that calling someone toxic is not rude. So clearly you and I seaglass Jan 2014 #432

I third that opinion. BIG TIME. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #391

Of course you do...am I supposed to be surprised that you VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #414

Check out a mirror. Your outrage is transparent and phony. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #429

this is not my outraged look.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #434

Zzzzzzzzzzz ...... polly7 Jan 2014 #438

SOP when you have been beaten... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #441

Beaten at what, responding to your spin, twisting, deliberately lying about what I and others wrote, polly7 Jan 2014 #444

prove it...prove it...prove it... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #457

+ 1 Cleita Jan 2014 #38

So would you also +1 to allow White people to tell African Americans VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #240

So we are going to allow ALL opinions on DU now? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #39

What a horrible way to categorize progressives who choose to discuss something and may polly7 Jan 2014 #53

Its women's issues in the United States... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #62

"soft misogyny"? Cleita Jan 2014 #67

what? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #73

We did at one time and DU was a better place for it. Cleita Jan 2014 #54

should African Americans allow some "difference of opinion" about their rights and VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #66

Of course. Why don't you star a thread on it because it has nothing to Cleita Jan 2014 #68

Sure it does... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #71

Women's issues are more important in my eyes than yours which is why Cleita Jan 2014 #79

Obviously they are not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #81

What do you mean by that? countryjake Jan 2014 #86

I don't presume to tell African Americans what is or isn't outrageous to them... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #90

Yet you do presume to tell Cleita that women's issues... countryjake Jan 2014 #97

I am only going by what I am seeing here.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #103

See this is so wrong. Cleita Jan 2014 #107

No its not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #111

I don't let anyone presume to tell me HappyMe Jan 2014 #100

Me either! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #112

You "obviously" know so much about me. Cleita Jan 2014 #95

wow...so? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #98

You should be on your knees thanking every woman who got Cleita Jan 2014 #104

What makes YOU think I don't? Are you saying I am supposed to bow to you AUTHORITAY? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #105

Brava! countryjake Jan 2014 #102

Of course "jake" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #108

No one is talking about African Americans but you. Cleita Jan 2014 #115

I am making an analogy... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #119

It's a poor one and intellectually dishonest. Cleita Jan 2014 #138

How...explain HOW VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #264

why do you suggest because I have an opinion on this matter...that somehow I don't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #123

I haven't told you a thing about how YOU should feel... countryjake Jan 2014 #136

the phrase is "despite" your face by the way... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #186

Bwahahahahahaha! I shall dig up my old dead mother... countryjake Jan 2014 #195

Oh no I am not...and it makes it mean something entirely different. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #200

Care to address what I said in the post where I used that adage? countryjake Jan 2014 #223

I have not "TOLD" you to wear man pants.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #225

Why? countryjake Jan 2014 #226

Would it be okay for a White person to keep that information private VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #230

How do I know what you are? countryjake Jan 2014 #241

are you calling me a Rightwing Nut now too? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #246

So that is all that you got from my reply? countryjake Jan 2014 #257

No...I don't NEED your opinions about what it is like to be a woman..do African Americans VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #259

So building solidarity isn't important in the fight for women's rights? countryjake Jan 2014 #294

Being supportive doesn't mean you get to have opinions about what it is like.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #296

Which brings us full circle in this whole tete a tete. countryjake Jan 2014 #307

Do African Americans? Do LGBT? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #418

So you were right about its meaning... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #237

It's "cutting off your nose to spite your face." DirkGently Jan 2014 #235

Wow. OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #367

'Cutting one's nose off *despite* one's face.' pacalo Jan 2014 #386

Thank you! Cleita Jan 2014 #110

"jake" doesn't get to have an opinion about what it is like to be a woman in America VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #113

Heh heh... countryjake Jan 2014 #124

You have no right to tell me what I should or shouldn't feel as a woman VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #126

^^^THIS^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #129

You are assuming "jake" is a man. Cleita Jan 2014 #156

what insults? Why is the truth an insult? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #168

Some of these folks remind me ultraradical campus Maoists. It's like a bad parody of feminism. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #131

Women hold up half the sky! countryjake Jan 2014 #145

While yet others accurately exemplify the League for Men's Rights LanternWaste Jan 2014 #154

a "parody of feminism"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #169

No. No. Cleita Jan 2014 #174

No did you or did you not applaud my being called an "internet dictator"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #177

But you didn't make the insult. Cleita Jan 2014 #184

No I didn't and NOW asking me if I am a Conservative.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #187

An alertable offense. Cleita Jan 2014 #206

Please do! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #210

Are you a conservative? You seem to be in high dander about the question. Cleita Jan 2014 #214

This question doesn't even deserve a response... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #220

by the way...was the word "comrade" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #193

comrade is complimentary from me but I never called you that. Cleita Jan 2014 #203

You applauded it...along with "Internet Dictator" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #207

and when did Social Democracy get confused with VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #197

I not against communism either like in kibbutz, communes or Cleita Jan 2014 #201

then why did you even bring them up? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #205

actually...that is EXACTLY what you are doing.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #179

This is what you are doing. Cleita Jan 2014 #198

All I have said is that Men don't get a pass when it comes to women's issues... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #202

Not fun is it when you get back some of your own. Cleita Jan 2014 #211

I don't know...how is that crow you are eating taste? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #213

Ah come on. Cleita Jan 2014 #217

I haven't changed my position.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #221

where is this "truth" you claim to have that didn't suit me? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #222

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #299

not just men. - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #40

If you allow 2 women to say that...then those women SHOULD be dealt with accordingly. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #42

I dealt with it in the only way I know how to on this Site. I do not participate or engage either Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #45

You sure have some authoritarian views for a progressive. Cleita Jan 2014 #75

And who are you to judge who is or isn't a "progressive"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #77

About the time you became the gender police. Cleita Jan 2014 #82

I am a female...that gives me an inside track...on what I should or shouldn't be outraged about. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #87

Then why did you bring it up if you don't feel adequate to put Cleita Jan 2014 #99

It's not a feeling...its knowing I don't... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #101

"señora commandant" xulamaude Jan 2014 #80

Really! Cleita Jan 2014 #89

LOL! "internet petty dictator." xulamaude Jan 2014 #92

do white people have a right to tell black people how they should feel? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #127

Good God! Squinch Jan 2014 #46

more like good gawdamn!! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #48

Yes. Squinch Jan 2014 #55

this happened in The Lounge ... not that it excuses the behavior. Happened on or about June 2013. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #58

I hear about that, but I missed it. Squinch Jan 2014 #59

meh, I just considered the source and moved on but, sometimes it still rankles when discussions Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #63

What I have seen in the situation you describe, is someone posting an opinion a little different RC Jan 2014 #117

That's nice, dear. Squinch Jan 2014 #120

Have any other words of wisdom? RC Jan 2014 #133

Squinch, Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #141

I hope Squinch Jan 2014 #164

A. You have no idea who's alerting let sufrommich Jan 2014 #149

I don't need to know. RC Jan 2014 #167

You DO realize the validity of such an exercise... tkmorris Jan 2014 #153

I invite you to try the exercise yourself going forward. Squinch Jan 2014 #165

If men can't have an opinion on those issues, then why even post them in GD? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #70

men should come to learn... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #74

Without participating in the discussion? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #78

they should listen and learn not presume to say they "know what its like" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

Distilled down what you are saying is men should STFU. MicaelS Jan 2014 #135

When people whose race you don't share talk about their racial experiences, do Squinch Jan 2014 #180

when it comes to Women's rights issues....that they seem to think they VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #182

When ANYONE tells me to STFU, that is when I stop listening. MicaelS Jan 2014 #194

How unfortunate for you. Squinch Jan 2014 #199

No, not unfortunate at all. MicaelS Jan 2014 #212

Life is too rich to insist that you can't learn from what other have to tell you about their Squinch Jan 2014 #219

So let's turn this around. MicaelS Jan 2014 #224

Asking which issues isn't parsing. It's clarifying. So, which issues? Squinch Jan 2014 #228

^^^ THIS ^^^ VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #238

You really think you should tell men what they should do? tkmorris Jan 2014 #161

Do you really think you have more expertise in what it is to be a woman than a woman does? Squinch Jan 2014 #170

its also soft misogyny. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #250

Did I say I did? tkmorris Jan 2014 #251

You were responding to a post that said: Squinch Jan 2014 #287

+1 1000words Jan 2014 #216

"Why not start a Women's Group where these issues can be discussed without the opinions of men?" xulamaude Jan 2014 #88

Groups are protected. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #91

Not THAT protected. xulamaude Jan 2014 #106

Oh? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #109

Yes, as far as I know, those who do not xulamaude Jan 2014 #114

There you go, sport. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #116

Sport?? xulamaude Jan 2014 #121

Are African Americans expected to do the same for Whites? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #128

I think that you are responding to the wrong person here... xulamaude Jan 2014 #130

no... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #132

The poster is gone. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #142

Good riddance pintobean Jan 2014 #159

I did not follow the poster but just wanted people to know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #191

Whoot!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #253

I really did not follow vthe poster so I do n8t know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #255

He/she followed me with sneaky, snarky sh*. polly7 Jan 2014 #256

I saw some meber said something about someone named iverglas. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #337

I read that too, but have no idea who this poster was formerly. polly7 Jan 2014 #342

Why not? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #140

Poster has been banned. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #192

Thanks. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #215

do you tell this to the LGBT community....that they should allow VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #94

Aaaaand I told you so- she's PPR'd LittleBlue Jan 2014 #190

They knew she was a zombie from the day she signed up BainsBane Jan 2014 #227

I'm here to learn as well as teach. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #150

Because 51% of the population is female. Do you feel that every topic that is posted on GD Squinch Jan 2014 #267

Oh, so discussion forums aren't meant for discussion. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #280

Not anymore .......... since META was taken away. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #283

If you are offended by these threads, why not just pass on by? Squinch Jan 2014 #311

Good for you. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #319

And you are allowed to post in anything you want to. But if you hate these threads so much, Squinch Jan 2014 #332

I don't hate those threads. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #336

Then pass them by. Squinch Jan 2014 #338

I will. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #344

"they" "them" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #147

I do know . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #49

Me too. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #61

Pretty much the same for me. HappyMe Jan 2014 #64

The trick is posting to avoid jury duty. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #244

Jan 6th is D-Day for GD for gender issues. Major Hogwash Jan 2014 #83

haha ... with what ... Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #144

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #242

There is a large amount of alerting on those threads. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #85

absolutely right Justin - hope all is well with you. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #172

Not enough. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #93

amen. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #178

Skinner on alert stalking pintobean Jan 2014 #148

There's the proof Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #163

You make me laugh often pintobean Jan 2014 #166

Don't know, don't care. If you want to know, why not go a little ways back in the GD archives winter is coming Jan 2014 #155

Although I listen to the LGBT community... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #160

Of course. For any other group, I think all here would agree that to do anything Squinch Jan 2014 #175

Please stop A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #176

LanternWaste is like that. Squinch Jan 2014 #181

The making of the sense will only confuse many. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #185

As is being vividly illustrated right here in this thread. Squinch Jan 2014 #188

I am perfectly willing to blast my own gender HockeyMom Jan 2014 #208

Well, I've been hitting HIDE THREAD a lot lately, but I'm guessing that isn't what you mean. MADem Jan 2014 #265

Interesting that a post can get 250+ replies ... dumbcat Jan 2014 #268

A very little Little let us do, and all shall be done! LanternWaste Jan 2014 #276

It's Meta and a hit and run Meta at that.nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #284

Not enough if they are riding in the GD forum... eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #289

I haven't alerted on any post about gender issues. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #290

Thanks to all for your thoughts oldhippie Jan 2014 #317

"one poster seems to want to dominate the discussion" sufrommich Jan 2014 #339

Yeah, ... oldhippie Jan 2014 #347

There was at least one (ridiculous) alert on a post in this thread. One of mine, in fact. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #341

I have no idea .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #354

The absurdity in that alert is way beyond ridiculous... countryjake Jan 2014 #356

I have no idea. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #384

There was another alert RainDog Jan 2014 #401

Yeah, juries are a real crapshoot in this place. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #403

Juror #2. sufrommich Jan 2014 #405

And Dear Juror #6: If you don't like venom, why didn't you vote to stop it? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #413

I dont get it either. I take jury duty pretty seriously sufrommich Jan 2014 #419

I alerted on all 3 posts that called the poster toxic - the original, ComradeGrumpy's and Polly7's seaglass Jan 2014 #440

"Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #421

it's true. I often want to use that when called to adjudicate on a post in I/P. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #423

And the more I click around to investigate & clarify A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #424

Thank you for your service, Justice Schwarzenegger PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #427

All rise. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #428

If oldhippie were to self-delete this monster A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #455

I know I would. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #458

Damn, I think your are right ...... oldhippie Jan 2014 #459