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otohara

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84. As A Matter Of Fact

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:15 PM

Jan 2014

I do.

And had I been smarter about guns when my son was little and spending the night at friends homes, I would never have allowed
him to be in homes with guns. He had a habit of calling me at 2AM wanting to come home - I would tell him to go back to the bedroom
because I feared even back then the parent might think there was an intruder in home and they'd shoot him. That happened recently in my state - guy shot his 14 year old step daughter who was sneaking back in the house.

He once was at a neighbors house and the mom left the kids in the home and as soon as she left - out came the guns.
I went down to get him , heard noises, looked in the window and saw three guns on the table. The kids were scurrying about to hide them before opening the door. He was never allowed in that house again.

Guns are dangerous, I don't want to be associated with anyone who feels the need to own one.

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Liberal Gun club has 1000 members [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 OP

Yuck. Just Yuck. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #1

Don't like this thread? Alert on SOP. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #113

Just because it disgusts me doesn't make it alertable, as I'm sure you know. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #114

Also, we don't want to be around the deranged, end timer/survivalist kooks*. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #2

oops. thanks for the link Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #3

600+ comments at sfgate link. Feisty gun-toting lefties. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #122

shows how little you know about SFGate CreekDog Jan 2014 #131

Ha! Sfgate publishes for the benefit for RW commenters. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #134

no they don't but i'm not surprised you've missed the point yet again CreekDog Jan 2014 #135

Take it elsewhere, Creekdog Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #139

they may belive that they are liberals and left leaning...but they are not bowens43 Jan 2014 #4

Exactly! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #5

Why? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #12

Thank you! First voice of reason. One can support a fair second amendment right without nightscanner59 Jan 2014 #53

The fastest path to gun control quaker bill Jan 2014 #90

Text of a lib gun group sticker: Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #112

Your justifications salve your soul not mine. upaloopa May 2014 #152

That's right - because this is the ONLY issue that matters el_bryanto Jan 2014 #7

You tell 'em! Shandris Jan 2014 #16

Says who? seveneyes Jan 2014 #18

They're all around. You don't have to look very far. eom Blanks Jan 2014 #35

I'm not one to tell another liberal that they are not a liberal Aerows Jan 2014 #37

Some here believe guns emit a "force field." Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #115

Guns are far more sentient to pro-gun militants than they are to gun control advocates. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #121

That explains why my .38 keeps laughing at me at the range. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #123

Deny it ammo for a week, see if that brings it into line..... (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #124

Well, if it were a .22 that would certainly be the case. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #140

Who appointed you captain of the liberal purity police? former9thward Jan 2014 #22

I'd like to know this Aerows Jan 2014 #38

? bvar22 Jan 2014 #27

Well to be fair there seems to be a lot of people on this site who Revanchist Jan 2014 #32

Well, maybe because he isn't. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #52

Clearly he isn't a liberal. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #49

Gosh yes! I own several guns and thought I was a hardcore Liberal..Thank you! for waking me!!! Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #29

I couldn't agree more skydive forever Jan 2014 #74

:) Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #79

You need to lose any swords you might have as well... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #106

OMG, my swords too? True true, cant be liberal and own swords Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #107

Lost my hunting knife last week. Does that count? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #116

members are generally "consistently left of the contemporary Democratic Party" progressoid Jan 2014 #31

Oh look, the arbiter of what is and isn't a liberal has spoken. X_Digger Jan 2014 #36

My bet - most Gungeoneers are not member of this group, but are an NRA member or supporter too cheap Hoyt Jan 2014 #44

You can find many GCRBKA posters on the LGC forum, same usernames. X_Digger Jan 2014 #46

I'm delighted to see Aerows Jan 2014 #51

What a steaming load. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #59

And lemme guess, the Pink Pistols aren't real GLBT either. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #67

Why do you say that? Yo_Mama Jan 2014 #78

you are catching flack, but I AGREE!!! In today's world of gun violence Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #86

Hubert Humphrey would disagree. But you know better. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #118

Of course he's catching flack, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #144

So owning a gun makes you a righty? LionsTigersRedWings Jan 2014 #125

They definitely are left-wing, despite your claim. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #138

Says you... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #142

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #146

+1000. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #147

I don't understand why some people think liberals can't own guns. NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #6

In Vermont, gun ownership trancends the traditional lines. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #8

Here too. Go Vols Jan 2014 #10

Washington state is solid blue, but we're a pretty pro-gun state. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #55

Same here south of the Columbia! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #62

Yup iandhr Jan 2014 #69

Owning a gun or two is one thing. Promoting them, accumulating them, supporting Stand Your Ground Hoyt Jan 2014 #43

Soooo... ElboRuum Jan 2014 #54

LGC is a non-NRA alternative group. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #57

Are you a member? Hoyt Jan 2014 #81

Not of either, but I could see joining LGC. I know a couple people who are. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #88

That's a lot like saying that all a handyman needs is two screwdrivers. ... spin Jan 2014 #87

Spin, if you aren't hunting diverse game, I see no reason for a bunch of different guns Hoyt Jan 2014 #92

First I don't go around shooting people and hope that I never have to use a firearm ... spin Jan 2014 #98

Anything that keeps them out of the NRA, I'm in favor of... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #9

It's OK to be a liberal and support the Second Amendment and own a gun(s). democratisphere Jan 2014 #11

+1000. eom Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #13

It's ok to be a liberal and own a gun, but the Second Amendment has nothing to do with that. onehandle Jan 2014 #15

I have a bridge for you to buy. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #61

Yep nt Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #17

I agree - gun ownership and a pro-2A/RKBA position is completely compatible petronius Jan 2014 #20

Would you say it's not OK for a liberal to be an NRA supporter? Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #21

It's OK to be a liberal and support the Second Amendment and own a gun(s) while.... democratisphere Jan 2014 #24

At best I think it unwise. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #58

I'd say it would certainly be damned difficult. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #66

So liberals can't own guns? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #14

I guess some do not agree Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #23

Just as with Hunter S. Thompson's gun fetish... tridim Jan 2014 #19

What's to get? It's fun. Shooting is a skill, it takes years of practice to become excellent at it. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #47

There are loads of progressives who own guns LittleBlue Jan 2014 #25

Loads - Hmmm...Never Met One otohara Jan 2014 #28

Ahh, "BEIKVFM"* rears it's head.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #39

All the liberals I know who were liberals at the time and able to vote Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #42

Umm, that thing flying above? That's the point, and I think it missed you. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #45

I think you will find that the "liberal McGovern vote" was at or near 90%. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #48

Yup, a solid swing and a miss. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #50

Nonetheless otohara Jan 2014 #63

Do you ask every new person you meet Go Vols Jan 2014 #82

As A Matter Of Fact otohara Jan 2014 #84

I guess that could happen Go Vols Jan 2014 #103

Jesus, what a come-on line: "Gotta a big gun on you?" Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #119

If you insist LittleBlue Jan 2014 #83

According to some, they're not 'real democrats' (or somesuch inanity.) X_Digger Jan 2014 #91

Children ok, sure, but the rest of that sounded a bit sexist there... AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #60

94% of Women Who Die From Guns otohara Jan 2014 #65

Fair point. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #68

And about 80% of all murder victims ... Straw Man Jan 2014 #109

Happy Gun Talk otohara Jan 2014 #126

You wanted facts. Straw Man Jan 2014 #128

We have cut our murder rate in half in the past 20 years hack89 Jan 2014 #132

Sounds a lot like some who say they never met a gay person Helen Highwater Jan 2014 #93

LOL otohara Jan 2014 #97

Well, I'm still waiting for an answer. Helen Highwater Jan 2014 #100

Helen otohara Jan 2014 #101

Ed Shultz. nt Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #99

Rachel Maddow Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #102

Wonder why. Straw Man Jan 2014 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #111

Just Terrified otohara Jan 2014 #141

I'm truly sorry that you had to experience that tragedy ... Straw Man Jan 2014 #145

Loads of progressive "girls, women" own guns. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #143

Are these alleged liberals against reasonable gun control? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #26

I am sure they are for "reasonable" gun control Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #33

nah, the gungeon is full of rkba absolutists who cover their asses Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #34

you mean like Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #41

Nonsense. beevul Jan 2014 #105

Dogs hunt. Straw Man Jan 2014 #136

Who says they are against reasonable gun control? NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #64

who says a question is an assertion? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #70

It's not mumbo-jumbo. It's reality. NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #72

no its wharggle-bharggle mixed with derp. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #73

And you made my last point. NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #75

LOL! NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #76

And a Happy New year to you as well! NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #77

in a city with roughly 4 million peope, so about 1 in 4,000, give or take Electric Monk Jan 2014 #30

That's ~1000 nationally. The article says about a dozen in the petronius Jan 2014 #40

We hit the range yesterday... ileus Jan 2014 #56

'Liberals' are prone to fear iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #71

There are left and right anarchists. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #89

I'm an older Democrat who comes from a long line of gun owning Democrats ... spin Jan 2014 #80

Being a single issue voter when that issue is guns upaloopa May 2014 #153

I have no intentions of leaving the party. ... spin May 2014 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa May 2014 #155

Gun owning is fine, but NRA-spouting liberals are not liberals. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #85

So their support of gun ownership is not the issue....? Helen Highwater Jan 2014 #94

Welcome to DU. Do you support the NRA?? madinmaryland Jan 2014 #95

The NRA is much more than that! B Calm Jan 2014 #120

I hope the number of liberals owning guns continues to grow. Then we'll see if the righties muntrv Jan 2014 #96

There are plenty of us now Go Vols Jan 2014 #104

I have always owned guns. B Calm Jan 2014 #110

I despise and ..... adavid Jan 2014 #117

800,000 Deer hunters in my state warrant46 Jan 2014 #127

personally, I'm to the left of liberals RedstDem Jan 2014 #129

Let's start taxing guns and ammunition like cigarettes�a hefty tax can pay for the oops of... Tikki Jan 2014 #130

There is already a federal tax on guns and ammo hack89 Jan 2014 #133

Assuming the federal funds from these taxes are fully implemented, I'm thinking further... Tikki Jan 2014 #137

It's a good group, great and very smart people. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #148

wow. thx Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #149

Kick Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #150

Tell me why I an supposed to feel better if a gunner upaloopa May 2014 #151