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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
50. Yes, I mean who gets elected. Since the indicators tell us there is a percentage of
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:09 AM
Jan 2014

the religious right willing to vote across party lines for some issues, we can/should work to
continue that trend. Although I do not disagree with your stated approaches, I do
wonder as I said earlier, as progressives we find ourselves as disenfranchised by our
own party as those religious youth likely feel within their own political circles.

With that said, one can only compromise so much before you have a diluted initiative
that moves much of nothing forward to improve the environment, poverty etc.
I do not have an answer to how we free ourselves of the influence of money in elections.
We can make part of the mantra, you are voting against your best interests, and yes, you
can hold onto your religious beliefs, privately..ie., no one is forced to have an abortion.

Your religion does not warrant you accepting that corporation should have the tax loop holds
that you never would, no 1%'er should have access to health care that you don't have.
I don't think one needs to demonize anyone in order to educate citizens but it does take
an organized effort.

I recall reading an interview with Chomsky, he said he listened to right wing radio, often.
Not to hear the hosts, but to listen to the callers. He felt that on some level that many
knew there was an injustice ( crash '08 ) but they were also lost about what actually had
taken place and why. Of course they were asking the worst people for guidance, but his
point is well take, imo. They were ripe for a truthful reply...we have to find a strategy to
broaden their understanding and get their votes.


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Teaching ignorance is working. Turbineguy Jan 2014 #1
FOX "News" ... napkinz Jan 2014 #11
Merely a result of rock Jan 2014 #2
I don't think they do, it is a trend that will change? I don't know. Looking at what we Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #3
the mainline's been sidelined--but remember that even the SoBapts were Gleichschaltet in the 70s MisterP Jan 2014 #12
egads, what a history of reform. Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #13
Powell Memo off the starboard bow! MisterP Jan 2014 #14
Fast forward and the irony is so thick, one needs a hack saw to cut through it: Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #15
Kirk Cameron Attempts to Out-Think Stephen Hawking and Fails Miserably napkinz Jan 2014 #4
Kirk Cameron on evolution ... napkinz Jan 2014 #5
From Chuck Norris to Kirk Cameron, Famous ‘Christians’ Say STUPID Things (Videos) napkinz Jan 2014 #6
"Is our children learning?" napkinz Jan 2014 #7
lol, is that for real? Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #8
yes ... it's been posted several times by a few members napkinz Jan 2014 #9
That is pathetic and scary...never saw it before. Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #10
I feel so sorry for that poor kid. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #24
I feel sorry for us. That kid will probably end up a senator. last1standing Jan 2014 #28
Good point! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #29
you forgot the "s" at then end of learning or was you not taught!? Phlem Jan 2014 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #16
Republicans on science committees, making decisions RainDog Jan 2014 #17
Definitely, this is not merely about the choice to believe the absurd due to ones religion. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #18
They deny funding for basic research, too RainDog Jan 2014 #20
It is about control, absoutely. MisterP posted a memo via Greepeace I will share below, also Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #25
Yes. No doubt many are shills for big biz RainDog Jan 2014 #31
This is both sad and pathetic. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #19
Rep. Paul Broun's (R-GA) at the Liberty Baptist Church, September 27, 2012 RainDog Jan 2014 #21
If this is statistically true with Republicans than our party is not immune. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #23
True. Democrats have social conservatives, too RainDog Jan 2014 #26
well said. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #32
Apparently DEvolution is just as real. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #22
Follow-up question: Has the percentage of people calling themselves republicans has shrunk? last1standing Jan 2014 #27
Among young voters, Democrats are ahead...Chris Christie lost out among Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #33
Then the actual number of republicans may not be increasing, merely the percentage. last1standing Jan 2014 #34
I hope so too, yet the youth being presented via their religion, a denial of basic science is Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #37
The best way to make an adult republican is it deny a child proper education. last1standing Jan 2014 #38
I choose to be optimistic. hunter Jan 2014 #30
That's probably because the base has shrunk so much. ananda Jan 2014 #35
Anti-science Climate Change Republicans: 113th Congress RainDog Jan 2014 #36
They have just about every conceivable issue covered, don't they. We have an up hill Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #40
speaking of the devils... RainDog Jan 2014 #41
We have to and did not Obama have a percentage of support from some religious groups during Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #44
I don't remember that RainDog Jan 2014 #45
Obama did have a percentage, a couple of links below. It does seem among the youth, to a degree, Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #46
I've heard conservative talking heads say the gay marriage issue is lost RainDog Jan 2014 #47
We are essentially in agreement..and since the first election cycle, have these supporters Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #48
Thanks, I've enjoyed this too RainDog Jan 2014 #49
Yes, I mean who gets elected. Since the indicators tell us there is a percentage of Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #50
Wow the average IQ of a Repug is still dropping. Vattel Jan 2014 #39
That's because the non-crazy Republicans are abandoning the sinking ship distantearlywarning Jan 2014 #42
Just more evidence of "meeting in the middle" being dangerously stupid. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #43
Is it possible the Rs that believed in evolution ArcticFox Jan 2014 #52
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