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In reply to the discussion: Do you think that feminists [View all]Shandris
(3,447 posts)And that problem is simple: there are far too many flavors to ever know which one someone represents in a general, out-in-the-world example. We see the same thing with many other movements, groups, organizations, and religions also. And until that problem is taken care of, the worst feminists will be the ones that get the most attention. It's an uphill struggle to try to get people to understand that what -we- talk about when we mean feminist, and what -they- are talking about, is usually two completely different things. One is real, and the other is largely a cultural Frankenstein made up of partial individual examples placed to either generate readers/sales or as a hobgoblin of change to the uneducated.
Not to mention the areas where waves work cross-purpose, that's a whole 'nother can of worms. Guh. So, with that in mind...
"...hate men?"
Of course not...generally speaking. However, some very vocal radicals have stated that they do with absolutely no ambiguity, so the answer to most people will be 'some do, some dont'.
"out to get men?"
See the previous answer.
"...nothing of value and ought to be..."
HELL no. At one time in the recent past, I thought that -maybe- certain feminist arguments should have their own forum on DU only but I would never say they should be relegated anywhere.
"...ought not point out when they..."
Hrm. This is a tricky question in a way (not intentionally). Typically speaking, no. No, no, no, no, no. But I also think you -- and this is a very general statement as mine often are, and is using the word 'you' in the strictly generic sense (as in, not directed to Boston Bean or any poster in particualr) -- have to pick your battles.
"...face institutional oppression?"
I challenge any woman to give a categorical 'no' to this question! Of course there is. Do I think it's as prevalent as some of these theories make it out to be? No. But to claim there isn't -any- is, to me, the height of idiocy.
"...personally insulting you?"
Why would I? Nor do I think they're personally insulting men as a general rule, but as in the first two answers individual exceptions will always exist (referring to in the populace at large, not necessarily at DU).
For clarity (since this seems to be a place I bother other posters at time), I give my answers in broad-view terms. They are in no way a reflection on current posters, other threads, DU specifically, or necessarily even -this- thread. I'm happy to clarify anything that doesn't make sense or seems off.