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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)out of a defunct, dead organization that has scattered to the four winds--you are.
And you've got the stones to talk about what being an "adult" is all about?
OK....whatever.
And, FWIW, you need to take that sequoia out of your eye--whining about "epithets" when you basically call me blind and insane because I don't want to flush the progress we've made thus far down the toilet and I don't blame people for advancing the ball down the field any way they can.
That said, I do think we can do better. Of course, that doesn't suit your scenario of teams of "Good Progressives" and "Bad Democrats" who run on hatred and bile. You LIKE the boogie man concept of politics--too bad you can't figure out that the REAL bad guys, the ones that will fuck you six ways to Sunday and laugh like hell while your children starve, living in a burnt out car or an American favela, are not DEMOCRATS--even the "bad" ones wouldn't sanction that. They're Republicans.
I am not surprised when I learn how well Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton get along--but there are people on this board who believe that they'd scratch one another's eyes out if they had the chance.
You can call me all sorts of names, that's on you and names don't hurt me anyway. I'm just not stupid, and that's what truly annoys you--I believe in getting as much as we CAN, and the only way we can do this is if we have Democrats--not Republicans and forget about those fringe parties full of Paulbots and Greens--who are in office, voting on issues, who are PERSUADABLE and can be moved. People screaming "Burn it down! Single Payer! NOW! RAH RAH!!" are NOT gonna get elected. They aren't. Even progressives like Elizabeth Warren are terribly supportive of the workers at our Bay State General Dynamics plant--she even backed (successfully) a battlefield equipment program that the PENTAGON wanted to CANCEL to save money in order to protect Massachusetts jobs. So basically, she told the Pentagon that they couldn't cut an expenditure, and she teamed with Republicans to do it, in order to spare jobs making something we don't want or need. Ain't THAT a bee word?
It's called pragmatism. Go on and get some. Or don't.
Now, you go have a nice, smug day. Go call someone else blind and crazy, why doncha?