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26. he may be an idiot

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:08 PM

Jan 2014

but where the fuck do you get bigot from?

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Man who carried AR-15 on his back inside mall says charges not warranted [View all] firsttimer Jan 2014 OP

Probably not Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #1

He received the attention , it was just not the attention he was expecting firsttimer Jan 2014 #3

umm. but I think it was to increase attendence... riversedge Jan 2014 #82

i'm glad he was arrested. trueblue2007 Jan 2014 #248

He was 'exercising his rights,' eh? pangaia Jan 2014 #2

I agree he is an idiot but this sort of post is about the same Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #28

+1 Owl Jan 2014 #195

A mental evaluation dang sure is. Just another ignorant bigot with his gun. Hoyt Jan 2014 #4

he may be an idiot ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2014 #26

I've noticed in my short time here that this sort of pistol is normal Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #30

"Pistol"? n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #115

I don't even know what I originally put anymore Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #167

Look at his website and FB page. Besides, I've never encountered a gun fancier with a AR15 Hoyt Jan 2014 #44

his website is pretty much just an inventory of his sales items in his store ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2014 #85

I guess you missed the "states rights" to discriminate crud. But a lot of gun fanciers Hoyt Jan 2014 #119

This doesn't look so hot jmowreader Jan 2014 #146

In your many experiences with this pintobean Jan 2014 #113

Because they are friggin Tbagger "patriots." You gonna defend them too? Hoyt Jan 2014 #117

I guess you ask them about that, too. pintobean Jan 2014 #120

It's pretty obvious don't you think? Those yellow and confederate flags Hoyt Jan 2014 #124

thank you for succinctly explaining my position ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2014 #148

I can't say that he is a bigot. Pervert, yes. He definitely should have been busted for madinmaryland Jan 2014 #110

Gives Whole New Meaning To The Word "Codpiece". left on green only Jan 2014 #171

That poor man, vt_native Jan 2014 #5

That doesn't even work. Bwahahaha! valerief Jan 2014 #202

"But ... but ... Glenn Beck said I'd be fine." lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #6

If some kid popped a helium ballon he'd shit his pants. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #7

What an idiot. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #8

Runs a store called Golden Triangle Tactical with a lot of right wing BS on Web sites. Hoyt Jan 2014 #14

I certainly wouldn't go as far as calling him a terrorist firsttimer Jan 2014 #15

How is that not the epitome of terrorism? He wants to force a political position... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

I'm very careful in how I use that word firsttimer Jan 2014 #112

I don't go around threatening others over my political beliefs... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #190

Poster child for the FBI and NSA? firsttimer Jan 2014 #237

huh? WTF? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #239

"I think the term is not being used enough" ........ your words firsttimer Jan 2014 #241

Did Occupy do it with weapons...because the ones I was talking about had actual... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #242

You don't have to kill people under the Patriot act, you don't have to use guns or bombs firsttimer Jan 2014 #243

What???? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #245

It's actually not a big leap if you read the act firsttimer Jan 2014 #260

Still shaking my head how you made the jump from this guy VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #244

You made the jump by wanting to use the Patriot Act on a misdemeanor firsttimer Jan 2014 #246

WHEN did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #247

Exactly what do think that means...... firsttimer Jan 2014 #249

I want him arrested for terrorizing his fellow citizens...what part of that is not VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #250

I understand 100% exactly your thoughts on this. firsttimer Jan 2014 #252

hmmm I don't know about that.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #254

Yeah , but neither is the Patriot Act very well liked on DU , and it shouldn't be firsttimer Jan 2014 #256

What he is doing SHOULDN'T be a misdemeanor charge... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #251

But that's what it is , if the DA wants to charge him a high crime , let him firsttimer Jan 2014 #255

He is not just playing his stereo too loud in his car disturbing the peace... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #253

I'm glad he was arrested and charged , that's why I posted this thread firsttimer Jan 2014 #257

Well you have to have reason to "trample his gun totin' rights" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #258

It would have to be a felony firsttimer Jan 2014 #261

Ta da! No joke.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #262

What do you think you told me something I didn't know firsttimer Jan 2014 #263

when did I bring up the Patriot Act? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #265

No , That was you with your post firsttimer Jan 2014 #266

Yes terorrism...words have meaning.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #267

Oh my god! firsttimer Jan 2014 #268

Have to be proven wrong to tell.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #269

Well you have to have reason to "trample his gun totin' rights" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #258

Let's see what laws he actually broke first. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #16

How about being a fucking public nuisance. You have First Amendment rights, I have First bluestate10 Jan 2014 #21

Could be hack89 Jan 2014 #24

Public nuisance laws are independent of whether the guy had a gun or was pissing off a bluestate10 Jan 2014 #36

he has a gun store Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #38

And is a white wing militia type. Screw him. Hoyt Jan 2014 #50

The only thing to hunt in the store was people. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #145

Time will tell. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #51

wonder what would have happened had the guy had a machete in the mall... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #271

Well at least one DU member would have approved of it. n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #272

I have the right to free speech. Atman Jan 2014 #60

Sounds like this is a stunt for free advertising. nt delta17 Jan 2014 #209

Could be. Gun fanciers are easily excited by lethal weapons and tactical crud. Hoyt Jan 2014 #220

He keeps that up, one day he's going be twiddling his thumbs in his store tanyev Jan 2014 #9

He should join Al Qaeda Turbineguy Jan 2014 #10

If his description of how he was carrying it is accurate, and if it's legal to carry petronius Jan 2014 #11

I'm sorry but his intension was to freak out and scare people shopping in that mall firsttimer Jan 2014 #13

He will deny it and it is impossible to prove hack89 Jan 2014 #20

H was creating a public nuisance that could have resulted in injury or death. bluestate10 Jan 2014 #25

No, the gun right is the Second Amendment, not the First. nt tblue37 Jan 2014 #35

His claim was that his First Amendment right was infringed on. That is what I was bluestate10 Jan 2014 #57

I see your point. BTW, I think that people should inform mall store or other store wners in tblue37 Jan 2014 #69

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" are in the Declaration of Independence... jmowreader Jan 2014 #143

Shhhh... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #238

Probably the same amendment that guarantees you beer and travel money jmowreader Jan 2014 #264

If he obeyed the open carry law as it is written hack89 Jan 2014 #43

He infringed on other people's rights to go about their lives without fear. nt bluestate10 Jan 2014 #58

Is that an actual crime? hack89 Jan 2014 #63

You may want to re-read the First Amendment petronius Jan 2014 #52

As I explained, the gun toter is complaining that his First Amendment rights were bluestate10 Jan 2014 #62

Yes, I understand his 1A argument (as I alluded to in my post) petronius Jan 2014 #68

I can't read minds but I was born with common sense firsttimer Jan 2014 #31

Time will tell nt hack89 Jan 2014 #49

Mind-reading is not a valid basis for charges petronius Jan 2014 #22

The creation of imminent, legitimate fear of harm is legitimate reason for charges. nt bluestate10 Jan 2014 #66

No, not really. Carrying a legal item in a safe and legal manner, without any overt petronius Jan 2014 #129

If that is his goal, he did a very poor job of it. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #32

How do you figure that ? people called the police because they were scared firsttimer Jan 2014 #53

I am sure that was their "stated" reason. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #61

By your reasoning, I can drive a tank through the Mall, as long as I didn't knock anything bluestate10 Jan 2014 #71

Except that driving a tank through the mall already has legal and civil restrictions ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #76

"Fear of the presence of firearms is not rational." Even after all the mass shootings? n/t nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #185

Correct. Even after all the mass shootings. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #186

Seems as if quite a few shoppers were afraid for their lives, in this case. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #187

That part is simple. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #188

Okay, point taken. But I don't blame people, especially nowadays, for seeing a big ol' gun nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #189

Yeah, it might take him three of four seconds to swing it around into firing position. hatrack Jan 2014 #198

legal or not he should be in jail. In a sane country this shit would not be tolerated. bowens43 Jan 2014 #48

I am strongly opposed to the notion of jailing people for 'shit I dislike' petronius Jan 2014 #55

"legal or not he should be in jail." Do you even read this shit before you post it? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #144

He wasn't carrying it safely in public. It was loaded and only attached by two carbiner clips. haele Jan 2014 #226

"Normal" peple don't carry AR-15's in crowded shopping malls. Historic NY Jan 2014 #12

Well Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #19

Apparently not because look what happened firsttimer Jan 2014 #23

never said he is smart Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #42

it is absolutely being carried in a threatening manner. idiot needs to be in jail. bowens43 Jan 2014 #46

I am opposed to this sort of open carry. Jenoch Jan 2014 #77

It was in a threatening manner - it was at ready for use, not set up for simple transport. haele Jan 2014 #229

A gun strapped to a person's back and upside down Jenoch Jan 2014 #231

Used to calling a magazine a clip. Carried a pistol and an M-16 back in the day on Shore Patrol. haele Jan 2014 #232

I do not thenk anyone is justifying Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #234

I agree with much of what you have to say, Jenoch Jan 2014 #235

Correct on the orange tip, just do not do that Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #233

and since he owns a gun shop, it's reasonable to deduce that he has ready access to a case.. frylock Jan 2014 #126

Like I said, not smart Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #137

He violated the malls rules..... Historic NY Jan 2014 #142

Can you point me to the text in your link where the rules of the mall were discussed? Thanks! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #147

here mixed up links.. Historic NY Jan 2014 #158

Awesome. Thanks for that. Where is that posted? Clearly, and at the entrance? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #164

Posting wouldn't matter... sarisataka Jan 2014 #170

Point taken, but I would respectfully argue that mall rules are not the same as laws as they pertain cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #172

Agreed sarisataka Jan 2014 #174

Everyone else in that Mall had a right not to have to deal with that jerk walking around with bluestate10 Jan 2014 #17

Exactly , Imagine the people who saw him approaching the entrance door firsttimer Jan 2014 #18

Imagine if one of them felt threatened JoePhilly Jan 2014 #33

I like to imagine everyone pointing at him and laughing arcane1 Jan 2014 #40

Tween girls at the mall can be dangerous! JoePhilly Jan 2014 #47

Even better! arcane1 Jan 2014 #64

I would imagine this sort of thing would freak everyone out. Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #27

What an asshole Politicalboi Jan 2014 #29

I was thinking something along those lines. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #37

Another brilliant gun wacko... 99Forever Jan 2014 #34

I hope someone called the cops on him and told them they feared for their lives. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #39

Thank you for pointing that out firsttimer Jan 2014 #59

the asshole needs to be locked up for a VERY long time bowens43 Jan 2014 #41

Aren't malls LiberalElite Jan 2014 #45

Yes they are private property. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #56

He probably wouldn't have made it through the mall in Florida XRubicon Jan 2014 #54

Meaning that he would have be sidetracked ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #65

Down here all you have to say is you feel threatened XRubicon Jan 2014 #67

That is a common misperception. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #70

I have lived in Florida for 23 years XRubicon Jan 2014 #74

And? ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #80

Where do you live? XRubicon Jan 2014 #86

I live in Seattle, WA. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #88

Why are you afraid? XRubicon Jan 2014 #98

What makes you think I am afraid? ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #105

That's right your not afraid when you carry... XRubicon Jan 2014 #109

Correct. I am also not afraid when I don't carry. The gun is just one of many self defense tools. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #114

I didn't realize Seattle was a combat zone XRubicon Jan 2014 #116

I did not realize that either. Thanks for pointing it out. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #122

You can take the Spock part as a compliment to your calm demeanor XRubicon Jan 2014 #128

I have seen those stats. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #133

So did Zimmerman. Hoyt Jan 2014 #125

My crystal ball is in the shop. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #127

Here's what was on my news tonight when I got home XRubicon Jan 2014 #79

The defendant seems to be able to articulate "reasonable fear". ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #87

If this was rare I may be less concerned XRubicon Jan 2014 #92

It is rare. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #97

Move to South Florida, and bring your gun XRubicon Jan 2014 #99

Open carry in public is illegal in Florida with only a few exceptions. ... spin Jan 2014 #93

I am surely impressed with your understanding of the laws and statistics XRubicon Jan 2014 #96

Which is why we need reasonable gun control laws. ... spin Jan 2014 #134

I wish I had a time machine to help you get back to the 19th century XRubicon Jan 2014 #141

Where did I say that I felt everybody should be armed? ... spin Jan 2014 #157

Man, if I razzed you about quantum physics would you google it to find crap in your favor? XRubicon Jan 2014 #160

It's a commonly held myth that the Wild West was extremely violent. ... spin Jan 2014 #175

I know what I see around me XRubicon Jan 2014 #191

Strange. I live in Florida and yet have not heard of any major incidents ... spin Jan 2014 #192

I see you are working today... XRubicon Jan 2014 #193

I don't "work" anymore. I'm retired. That gives me plenty of time to do research ... spin Jan 2014 #200

Did you see my edit? XRubicon Jan 2014 #201

No, I missed that. ... spin Jan 2014 #206

I don't need research and citations to say what I feel on a message board XRubicon Jan 2014 #207

Invincible ignorance hack89 Jan 2014 #210

Thank you XRubicon Jan 2014 #212

one more thing XRubicon Jan 2014 #213

Cartoons are exciting - the real world has boring facts and complexities. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #214

ok hack XRubicon Jan 2014 #215

Nice talking to you. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #216

Hey, no pasted stats about how dingos in austrailia die of car accidents and not guns! XRubicon Jan 2014 #218

You seem a little ...... unsettled hack89 Jan 2014 #222

I know that gun control advocates use emotional arguments to support their cause ... spin Jan 2014 #211

Lies, damn lies, and statistics XRubicon Jan 2014 #219

Ah, an emotional argument. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #223

Ah... XRubicon Jan 2014 #224

Yup. I'll be here ready to Google facts and statistics looking for someone who can make me ... spin Jan 2014 #225

Publicity stunt for his store. gulliver Jan 2014 #72

Open carry douchebag fail jpak Jan 2014 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #75

But a privately owned mall has a right to ban them, and the police pnwmom Jan 2014 #78

Does that mall have signs up banning guns inside their mall? Jenoch Jan 2014 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #90

True. Management can always ask you to leave for any or no reason. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #91

IMO, he is taking a risk. A person with a legal concealed weapon could easily see this as a AlinPA Jan 2014 #81

That would get the CCW holder arrested for an illegal shooting. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #94

I didn't say that it "meets the bar". I'm talking about a reaction that could take place. AlinPA Jan 2014 #100

Of course, it "could" happen. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #108

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #103

All of these gun-nuts who want to walk around with weapons (I know it make them feel super) demosincebirth Jan 2014 #89

Good thing it wasn't a toy gun that looked like a real one. NBachers Jan 2014 #95

No doubt etherealtruth Jan 2014 #101

I notice the dot on your map. I lived in Kalamazoo and environs for a few years. NBachers Jan 2014 #104

Heck if I know etherealtruth Jan 2014 #106

Well, we've got to find out who made up these generic state avatars and get to the bottom of this. NBachers Jan 2014 #123

Liklely right wing infiltration! n/t etherealtruth Jan 2014 #135

It appears to me to be the state capital. Lansing. Kaleva Jan 2014 #118

correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #132

Duh ... yeah, that's right where it is etherealtruth Jan 2014 #136

Yup- and the New York avatar is right at Albany NBachers Jan 2014 #138

Clearly, I am not on to anything etherealtruth Jan 2014 #139

Lansing Michigan, state capital city. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #165

Thank you, Derek. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #102

This mall is 20 miles from my house. SCUBANOW Jan 2014 #107

Okay firsttimer Jan 2014 #121

He and I went to the academy together. SCUBANOW Jan 2014 #161

I'm sure you did firsttimer Jan 2014 #177

Join the military, dumbass. nt madinmaryland Jan 2014 #111

How do you know he isn't a Veteran? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #149

I didn't think that a Veteran needed to prove that he was a tough guy madinmaryland Jan 2014 #150

Shall I ask the question again, or will we agree you don't know one way or the other? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #151

Can I assume from your questions that you actually support this person's right to madinmaryland Jan 2014 #152

defllect much, just answer the question Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #153

I don't recall you asking me a question or even ever talking to you, so I have no madinmaryland Jan 2014 #155

was not my question Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #159

As long as I can assume you don't know the definition of indecent exposure... sure. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #154

I've said it before and I will say it again... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #156

Women partake in Open Carry gun event Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #162

Um... I don't know what your "is the same as" has to do with the definition of indecent exposure. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #169

I guess you don't get it. Oh well. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #173

What I GET is that there is this emotional thing that leads you to equate cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #176

Thank you. That's all I needed to see as you have proven everything I was told. nt madinmaryland Jan 2014 #178

Is there a reason you don't give us "everything" you were told? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #180

Wow. Mighty defensive there, my friend. Everything ok? madinmaryland Jan 2014 #181

I have bodies I need to hide... I'm sorry if I get defensive. I get that way sometimes. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #182

I'm not sure if Shirley understands you... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #183

Manana. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #184

+1 Owl Jan 2014 #196

Neither do you so his request is fine. Get it? n-t Logical Jan 2014 #163

No, but feel free to explain it to me in terms a dufus like me can understand. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #166

Oh for Christ's sake bonzaga Jan 2014 #130

Looks like a mall ninja type. ileus Jan 2014 #131

He owns a "tactical" gun store. Kind that appeals to gun culture. And His websites promote Hoyt Jan 2014 #197

Makes him unfit to have ANY guns. Nutcase on display on point Jan 2014 #140

what a fucking coward Skittles Jan 2014 #168

Maybe not charges. May civil commitment. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #179

How would anyone know that this guy isn't going to whip that gun around and start blasting away? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #194

Gun humpers want billh58 Jan 2014 #199

CCW holders are Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #204

CCW holders know the law Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #203

If I saw that asshole walking through the mall, I would be out the door and on the phone to 911 Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #205

You cannot be serious. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #217

Yes I am Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #227

They study the law closely so as not to miss opportunity to shoot someone just like Zman. Hoyt Jan 2014 #221

I love your answers Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #230

Why don't you spend your time learning how to live without a friggin gun, Hoyt Jan 2014 #236

I dont carry Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #240

#lookadouche dionysus Jan 2014 #208

Obviously, that's why he's a Gun-Nut . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #228

And now thousands of people have heard of Golden Triangle Tactical Recursion Jan 2014 #270

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Triangle_%28Texas%29 oneshooter Jan 2014 #273