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In reply to the discussion: Do you think that feminists [View all]RainDog
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There are people here I disagree with on various issues, or subsets of issues. I don't think that grants me the right to call them names, etc.
When I choose to participate in a discussion with them, I think I have to talk to them about the issue. Otherwise I don't bother.
Some people here who id as feminist think they're fighting the feminist fight to insult others who disagree. They don't want to hear any other pov. That's why people have said... keep the discussion in HoF if you don't want another pov, not because people want to stop others from discussing feminist issues, but because GD is not a protected group, and anytime someone posts something, others can participate.
BUT, because of this long habit of insults rather than issues, there are hostilities between different people here and some of those people are friends with others who "stick up" for them, etc. These attacks come from people on both sides of an issue.
and this is where the problems occur.
take the example of the post/thread where Riff was called a dog. That post was making fun of religious conservatism and its attitude toward porn - and making fun of religious conservatism in general.
but because it was about the way people "view" porn, it was offensive to some, or just an opportunity to attack. Mostly the thread is people laughing about the video, going off on tangents about memories about magazines, hiking, concerts, songs... but one person thought it was somehow appropriate to jump into the thread and accuse WarrenD of somehow destroying humanity by looking at a Sears catalog. To wit, BB said: "It must be rough to believe your biology is inexorably linked to profit for the few." Was this a joke, or was this an extension of other arguments related to porn? WD handled it well, even when BB tried to insult him. Then, when someone noted she came in and did just that.. it was poor her, "What you really mean to say is: "shut the fuck up because I don't like your opinion."
Well, if your opinion is an insult to someone, then, on this board, why are you insulting that person, then pretending people won't think you're a jerk for doing so on a thread that was for humor?
If it's not your kind of humor, ignore it. No one even insulted BB, even in replies. It all came from her.
Then TA came in later with the "I see you as a dog" remark. That stunned me, frankly. I don't know what history happened between her and the other woman she said this to beforehand. Others don't know either. It just looks like a nasty personal attack. Nastier than BB's.
Then SB comes into the thread claiming WD is always "attacking women's sexuality." Okay. I've never seen that, but maybe it's taking place in some far corner of DU.
Then is devolved further, and included links to WTF sorts of claims by BB in HoF that, in GD, if you don't like rape you're a prude.
Yes, that's exactly what that whole issue was about.
That thread went all over the place, from funny stuff to attacks. Just like this one. It's the people, not the issue, and certainly not feminism, that is at issue because feminism doesn't consist of twisting issues to defame an entire discussion board.