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In reply to the discussion: This is not a game, people [View all]Romulox
(25,960 posts)162. Perot was 100% correct on NAFTA; Al Gore was 100% wrong. Until Al can admit his mistake,
he can't truly shed the demons of his past.
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"sitting out the election" Some people may say that here, but I truly believe that when
teddy51
Dec 2011
#3
I can't see how anyone would sit out the election with both houses of Congress at stake.
GoCubsGo
Dec 2011
#17
Sorry, but those jobs went down the tube with the Bill Clinton NAFTA agreement, as Ross Perot
teddy51
Dec 2011
#45
We are in deep shit - no argument from me. Those jobs are gone but with the Republicans
gateley
Dec 2011
#53
Perot was 100% correct on NAFTA; Al Gore was 100% wrong. Until Al can admit his mistake,
Romulox
Dec 2011
#162
I'm afraid that's the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. President Clinton was the leader of the Party,
Romulox
Dec 2011
#104
Don't know where the fuck that question came from, but no, I'm not a fan of anything
gateley
Dec 2011
#208
It doesn't say any such thing -- that's what you chose to project and read into it.
gateley
Dec 2011
#210
LOL. Nice try at revisionism: "President Bill Clinton - Remarks on the Signing of NAFTA"
Romulox
Dec 2011
#154
I know you didn't. But your pictures don't show NAFTA's ratification into US law. From wiki:
Romulox
Dec 2011
#177
No argument other than to say that Bill Clinton was President when NAFTA was passed. n/t
teddy51
Dec 2011
#107
And Clinton signed it. And Al Gore campaigned on TV for it. But other than that, NOTHING.
Romulox
Dec 2011
#111
Poppy Bush *made* Al Gore appear on Larry King Live to debate Ross Perot? That's silly.
Romulox
Dec 2011
#108
Clinton signed it. I just gave you a link to Al Gore *EVANGELIZING* over it. They own it. nt
Romulox
Dec 2011
#120
Irony alert! The Ross Perot "giant sucking sound" was a reference to Clinton/Gore's NAFTA. What
Romulox
Dec 2011
#72
To invoke "giant sucking sound" to argue that "we must vote for Dems" lacks self-awareness
Romulox
Dec 2011
#105
You're hurting the cause you profess to help through this lack of awareness. That's the point. nt
Romulox
Dec 2011
#156
OK. Spout self-contradictory nonsense all day long, then. None of this matters.
Romulox
Dec 2011
#160
No... Perot was speaking to GHW Bush in a 1992 debate when he made that famous quote.
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2011
#146
Bizarre revisionism! He was referring to NAFTA, signed by President Clinton in 1993.
Romulox
Dec 2011
#164
This would be funny, but no, it's sad. I gave you the Wiki entry on the subject, above. You could
Romulox
Dec 2011
#180
DU was the site of many things, and many argued about the potential consquences.
Capn Sunshine
Dec 2011
#188
If you have any doubts that Obama is doing everything he can with constitutional constraints,
no_hypocrisy
Dec 2011
#5
You are wrong about why Obama left Iraq. He was forced to, because his
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2011
#58
It's not a talking point, it's a fact: Obama admin attempted to renegotiate SOFA
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#212
Those headwinds were not overpowering when Obama came in with a mandate...
wakemewhenitsover
Dec 2011
#61
I expected for him to frame the his agenda with democratic arguments and not
myrna minx
Dec 2011
#63
well yes - that was his biggest failing that he certainly did have control over
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2011
#70
Persuasion? Choice A: Pres. Obama. Choice B: a repubican. How can you NOT be persuaded?
66 dmhlt
Dec 2011
#33
You and 536 others like you gave us Bush in 2000. On behalf of the thousands ...
11 Bravo
Dec 2011
#23
Since you don't care for Democrats who have served, and you despise all Republicans...
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2011
#195
I feel bad for people that held Obama up on such a high pedestal like some God. Newsflash:
FarLeftFist
Dec 2011
#20
But Fox News said he was the most liberal senator in the history of the country!
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2011
#148
We have a couple other REALLY BIG challenges in the coming year - both houses of the Congress
housewolf
Dec 2011
#21
I like Hillary as well, and would be glad to see her in the WH, but here's the problem:
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2011
#150
We are not happy, but you are correct, Gingrich or Romney would destroy this country..nt.
Stuart G
Dec 2011
#37
Yes it appears that Obama is the best butthead to vote for, of the two parties. However, if we...
webDude
Dec 2011
#56
Like Obama said, don't compare him to perfection. Compare him to the alternative.
lunatica
Dec 2011
#65
I expected him to overcome the filibuster since it was easily done using reconciliation.
eomer
Dec 2011
#66
I'll say it again, because it bears repeating: Obama is the best we are going to get
Taverner
Dec 2011
#78
democracy was supposed to prevent this shit, right? blaming the politicians doesn't help.
certainot
Dec 2011
#97
i agree. and IMO there will be a shitload more trolls this cycle, internet and paid radio callers
certainot
Dec 2011
#93
Obama not addressing ANY of the needs of 99% to kiss the bums of the 1% isn't a game either.
Lionessa
Dec 2011
#106
Nothing Obama has done is anywhere near as bad as what the GOP contenders say they will do. n/t
Ian David
Dec 2011
#137
"Vote for Democrats or else you'll hear the giant sucking sound" = LOL for anyone who remembers '93.
Romulox
Dec 2011
#174
All that I expected was for him to at least make an attempt to do the things he said he would do.
bowens43
Dec 2011
#173
Remember why people voted for Nader because there was no difference between Gore and Bush?
wildeyed
Dec 2011
#179