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Shandris

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5. As I've noted on this topic before though...
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:36 AM
Jan 2014

...there is a hidden problem in this assumption -- the assumption is that people have the time to take off from work to take advantage of all these new trained personnel. That's one HUGE assumption when you eke by on what you make working as many hours as humanly possible; now take a day off work PLUS the co-pay and see how it looks. Furthermore, plan on doing that with some regularity for any other family members, plus so-called 'routine care' and you're going to find most poor people -- the people using the ER's in this manner -- simply can't -afford- to do that.

You can argue that in the long run they'll save money on the preventative care, and you'd be right -- but planning for the long term is -not- the reality of these folks. If it were, they wouldn't stay poor for long. This is the harsh reality that gets overlooked because, simply put, unless you've (generic 'you') been there, you don't -think- about that kind of thing.

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ACA - bandaid for a sucking chest wound KG Jan 2014 #1
+1 xchrom Jan 2014 #2
Informative. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #3
If you're looking for trouble frazzled Jan 2014 #4
As I've noted on this topic before though... Shandris Jan 2014 #5
I'm not understanding your comment frazzled Jan 2014 #6
I'm going to go on the assumption you don't live among the people I've described. Shandris Jan 2014 #8
No, I still don't understand frazzled Jan 2014 #9
Yes, preventative for chronic was what I was... Shandris Jan 2014 #10
As those of us that actually pay attention to what is actually happening already know, Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #7
The AMA has always controlled the supply of doctors underpants Jan 2014 #11
I'll say it again... hunter Jan 2014 #18
I second that. The AMA has nothing to do with it. mainer Jan 2014 #24
Not to mention a lot of med students don't want to be Primary Care Physicians. TheMightyFavog Jan 2014 #38
Someone who gets it ^^^ sendero Jan 2014 #12
see my post #18 above. hunter Jan 2014 #19
You confuse MDs with doctors. Igel Jan 2014 #13
That is correct. Medicare pays for, and regulates, residency spots. Barack_America Jan 2014 #16
That's interesting - enlightenment Jan 2014 #30
Easy fix.... Bigmack Jan 2014 #14
It's pointless to threaten the AMA, it's a strawman. hunter Jan 2014 #21
It already exists Glitterati Jan 2014 #32
I love that relative... and her ideals...nt Bigmack Jan 2014 #35
Thanks, so do we! Glitterati Jan 2014 #41
We have a shortage of *practicing* physicians. Barack_America Jan 2014 #15
Another non-practicing MD here. mainer Jan 2014 #25
Am I wrong that part of the problem is .... Bigmack Jan 2014 #36
I agree with you that use of EDs is something a lot of previously uninsured knew and therefore CTyankee Jan 2014 #29
I don't know that two years is an appropriate timeframe to study this. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #17
The AMA regulates salaries? Which are SO GREAT that I quit! mainer Jan 2014 #27
"barely making it"? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #31
The AMA is not a "trade union." That's bullshit. hunter Jan 2014 #42
Show me a poor doctor and I'll show you a country NOT the U. S. of A. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #34
Get them go for the preventive care treestar Jan 2014 #20
From the OP article: ProSense Jan 2014 #22
Doctor shortage in US is based on most problems in US....greed. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #23
Chris Hayes reported on this late last week. winter is coming Jan 2014 #26
Do we actually have a doctor shortage or is this like "America's STEM shortage"? winter is coming Jan 2014 #28
I don't see enough evidence. gulliver Jan 2014 #33
There's not a "doctor shortage", there's an entirely deliberate medical school bottleneck Recursion Jan 2014 #37
No, it's not. hunter Jan 2014 #43
General medicine should be socialized TlcJobCoach Jan 2014 #39
And another thing TlcJobCoach Jan 2014 #40
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