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BlueCaliDem

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73. FWIW...

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:36 PM

Jan 2014

In my previous post, prior to the last one, I was referring to Obama's wins. I wasn't trying to imply that a Republican won't win the WH in the coming decades, but should Hillary Rodham Clinton run in 2016, the race will be hers to lose - and you can bet that she won't lose again. That much I know, based on the grassroots work of OFA and ReadyforHillary PAC that had just signed on two of Obama's top campaign strategists.

Also, President Obama has already said that he won't leave DC after his second term. He says that he's staying there until his youngest daughter finishes school, but we all know why he really wants to stay.

Finally, to paraphrase Howard Fineman in October 2008: "Obama is a savvy politician. They (meaning, his Republican opponents) underestimate him at their peril."

You should keep that in mind.

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I think it deserves it's own thread: Gore won the election [View all] bonzaga Jan 2014 OP

Yes - we would be smart to remember who the real enemy is... polichick Jan 2014 #1

You're correct. It is the smarter thing to do. But in a country where first impressions BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #3

What? You think we're not going to have a republican president for decades? loudsue Jan 2014 #67

Yep. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #70

Well, only time will tell. n/t loudsue Jan 2014 #71

FWIW... BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #73

Wow yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #6

The post is in the context of recent discussions on the board. MADem Jan 2014 #9

Your comment shows how much - or little - you get... polichick Jan 2014 #10

That's the whole point in a nutshell. We are being screwed six ways to Sunday loudsue Jan 2014 #72

Yes Kath1 Jan 2014 #53

Time for some DU babies mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #89

True that. If the entire state had been recounted, which it later was, Gore won. Zen Democrat Jan 2014 #2

dehaven smith said it was in the over votes questionseverything Jan 2014 #7

Wow. :( LukeFL Jan 2014 #26

not dead but ailing questionseverything Jan 2014 #34

Gore -LIEBERMAN won elehhhhna Jan 2014 #4

Gore Won Big. Octafish Jan 2014 #5

so did kerry questionseverything Jan 2014 #14

Absolutely. Too bad Connell died so suddenly in that small airplane. Octafish Jan 2014 #16

How is Rove still walking free? malaise Jan 2014 #19

The Powers To Be love Rove. He is very useful. I heard that he was caught rhett o rick Jan 2014 #44

the election integrity peops asked for his protection questionseverything Jan 2014 #20

And that election was the only time ever that the Supreme Court chose the winner. pacalo Jan 2014 #43

Were it not for that shitty injustice, none of us would be here. MADem Jan 2014 #8

Yeah, I ran into Nader recently DFW Jan 2014 #12

They were friends - both of Lebanese origin malaise Jan 2014 #21

I knew Helen for 50 years DFW Jan 2014 #32

Your relationship with Helen is well known malaise Jan 2014 #66

Helen was a love. She gave a lot of us hope during the dark Dubya years! nt MADem Jan 2014 #40

We knew her for fifty years DFW Jan 2014 #42

I remember when you first posted that picture, and told a few tales-not out of school, of course- MADem Jan 2014 #47

Are you trying to diffuse the petty bickering that is currently ongoing elsewhere on DU? Or, ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #11

The robbing of the USA of a Gore Presidency DFW Jan 2014 #13

When I think of the biggest tragedy that came from the Bush presidency... Blanks Jan 2014 #15

You are so correct re Sandra Day O'Connor No Vested Interest Jan 2014 #17

+1 Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #29

I concur: we're not going to survive in present form for more than another couple of decades. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #30

I recall being in utter disbelief that our system could become so corrupt. Now I just take it for adirondacker Jan 2014 #50

Precisely malaise Jan 2014 #18

You can BET 9/11 wouldn't have happened.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #22

AND, he almost lost because HE WAS NOT PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH, not the reverse. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #23

Sad K&R. Overseas Jan 2014 #24

Meh, they very same people that cry over Nader and have a selective memory Rex Jan 2014 #25

No, they're not. They were people who voted Democratic in local elections, pnwmom Jan 2014 #38

I think Nader is an asshole, and I have never once voted for a Republican--and I couldn't MADem Jan 2014 #41

Nope, those 100,000 folks are Panhandle Democrats who always vote Republican in state wide and stevenleser Jan 2014 #56

I don't understand Nader supporters constantly bringing up 100,000 Dixiecrats who voted for Shrub Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #57

They think those 100,000 allow them to blame Democrats for the election theft instead of Nader stevenleser Jan 2014 #60

2001-2009 was an usurpation rustbeltvoice Jan 2014 #27

i know samsingh Jan 2014 #28

I guess that means VP LIEberscum won, too. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #31

it was openly admitted by Newsweek August 2001 MisterP Jan 2014 #33

Been saying that for years n/t Gore1FL Jan 2014 #35

Like me, you are one of the early members of this site, Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #62

But Nader helped put BUSH into the office. That's the bottom line. n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #36

thats the company line reddread Jan 2014 #49

Nader ran hard in Florida, taking more than 90,000 votes in a race pnwmom Jan 2014 #54

"Single progressive who had the greatest influence on throwing the election to Bush" Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #59

I assume you meant to write that Nader took more than 90,000 votes, which strengthens your point. Jim Lane Jan 2014 #61

Thank you, you are absolutely right. If only one in a hundred Nader voters pnwmom Jan 2014 #63

magnitudes off reddread Jan 2014 #76

It never would have gotten to the 5 if Nader hadn't drawn over 90,000 votes. pnwmom Jan 2014 #77

as if reddread Jan 2014 #79

Jeb and Katherine would have been caught if they'd cheated on that scale. pnwmom Jan 2014 #80

if you say so, assertions are not evidence reddread Jan 2014 #81

Nader ran in some key swing states where a handful of Rethugs pnwmom Jan 2014 #82

so the simple math logic requires is more of a gift than i thought reddread Jan 2014 #83

The Rethugs couldn't fix more ballots because the disparity would have required pnwmom Jan 2014 #87

beliefs are odd reddread Jan 2014 #88

Paul Wellstone backing the CBC petition would've changed absolutely nothing Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #58

Bush stole it and did not win reddread Jan 2014 #75

Overturning Florida's electoral votes would've required a Republican controlled House... Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #78

challenging the results of theft would be enough reddread Jan 2014 #85

are you suggesting reddread Jan 2014 #86

GORE WON bonzaga Jan 2014 #84

Yes he did. Damnit. And so did Kerry. Mira Jan 2014 #37

American Coup 2000 colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #39

What DOES matter is that Bush became President. That meaning of who "won" is important. Jim Lane Jan 2014 #45

Nader--have intellectual honesty? Not only was his 2004 campaign paid for by the GOP, he has MADem Jan 2014 #48

Good grief I never saw that. Thanks for posting it. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #90

Of course he did lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #46

Yes he did sakabatou Jan 2014 #51

Am I the only one who heard a report on 9-11 Iris Jan 2014 #52

I remember that. 2naSalit Jan 2014 #55

He's still President-Elect to me. byronius Jan 2014 #64

They did not steal the election with good intentions in mind. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #65

DU's Raison d'etre JCMach1 Jan 2014 #68

Recommend #80 H2O Man Jan 2014 #69

Republicons lied and stole the election from America Berlum Jan 2014 #74