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Ms. Toad

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45. It would be nice if that was actually true.

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 04:54 PM

Jan 2014

Unfortunately, I've pointed to CAM which beats out placebos in double blind control studies, and the discussion on DU still stays at the level of "woo" kills.

I don't believe I have ever encountered anyone on DU who insists that all CAM is safe or efffective. On the other hand, I have encountered far too many people who make the blanket statement that "woo" kills, or "alternative medicine" kills - without any acknowledgement that CAM is as varied (or more) than traditional medicine - and that the use of some of it is supported by scientifically valid research.

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A thought: For some of us, WOO was our only option. [View all] ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 OP

*fingers crossed for you* In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #1

Thank you In_The_Wind! ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #5

You deserve only the best my friend. May this year bring you happiness. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #12

surely you don't mean to suggest that necessity... mike_c Jan 2014 #2

...desperation dear...desperation... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #4

Some people think that if an event can't be explained by the criteria they apply, LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #3

smh. more magical thinking. eqfan592 Jan 2014 #6

I'm saying some things turn reason on its head. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #11

did you just compare quantum theory to alternative "medice?" seriously? nt eqfan592 Jan 2014 #15

"Quantum" is now the go-to bullshit phrase for the pseudo-science crowd. Codeine Jan 2014 #18

No, I'm not a physicist or anything close to it, but I've read a few books about it. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #22

It was less about your post Codeine Jan 2014 #24

Why not? LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #19

Oh, it's "apparent" that some cures work? eqfan592 Jan 2014 #20

I've known people who have tried alternative medicine for certain problems LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #25

UNTIL a study has been done on it, i see little reason to believe it does. eqfan592 Jan 2014 #27

I'm all for studies. I don't know why more studies haven't been done on some of these things. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #29

Actually, they CAN in fact all be wrong. eqfan592 Jan 2014 #30

I think it all comes down to this. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #38

It would be nice if that was actually true. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #45

They already know that herbs are science. They just try to come in and make trouble. loudsue Jan 2014 #9

I usually do ignore them; I don't know why I've even read some of these threads. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #14

the only "saboteurs" are those that promote non-science based medicine. eqfan592 Jan 2014 #16

Desperation sucks etherealtruth Jan 2014 #7

It sure does ShazzieB Jan 2014 #21

Welcome to DU! etherealtruth Jan 2014 #23

K and R bigwillq Jan 2014 #8

I guess the placebo effect customerserviceguy Jan 2014 #10

I went without health insurance for the last year and I didn't buy into woo. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #13

My physician wouldn't see me without an up ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #31

My doctor visits campus and it only costs $20 to see him. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #33

It is. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #34

I'm glad you got your insurance card. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #36

Good luck! Make sure they treat you nice. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #42

Well, don't feel bad.... Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #43

Best thoughts for your better treatment and good health! LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #17

I hope you receive the treatment you need. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #26

Sorry, but BULLSHIT. Science didn't demand you pay up front - Capitalism did. progressoid Jan 2014 #28

Science. Sorry. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #32

Congratulations. n-t Logical Jan 2014 #35

This. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2014 #37

You are right, ScreamingMeemie. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #39

My wife is a Wooist, and I support her. Courtesy Flush Jan 2014 #40

One more thing Courtesy Flush Jan 2014 #41

My friend with MS libodem Jan 2014 #44

Well, woo supplemented by careful habits is not "bad" if there isn't much of an issue to begin with. haele Jan 2014 #46

As always... Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #47