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In reply to the discussion: Anti-woo commentators are a bunch of smug and condescending... [View all]Marr
(20,317 posts)261. Medieval pseudoscientists and modern day quacks are "my boys"?
I think they'd be more in your camp, personally. You know, people who claim X cures Y without any scientific support to back it up.
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ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
OP
What do you know about me that causes you not to be shocked that I "fail to understand
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#2
You just made this post, underscoring that you failed to understand the difference.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#9
Pointing out what you believe to misguidedness is one thing, it's how that bunch
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#20
You seem to be laboring under the assumption that the woo-believers are open to counter-evidence or
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#423
The problem is that, often, people label "woo" those things that they disagree with.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#38
Anecdotal is evidence. Indicative only, not definitive, but evidence.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#209
If you are unable to confirm a claim to expertise, your assertions based on that claim have no value
Android3.14
Jan 2014
#461
I think it smells a little fishy when someone requires that I post my name and other informaiton
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#462
It is their job, through the use of science--to prove their GM food is safe, before it passes FDA
Chrom
Jan 2014
#175
because of the way you, and other like minded woobashers, communicate in these threads.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#71
Your word choices, tone, and general attitude to the OP have been classic bullying.
1monster
Jan 2014
#218
Going back and reading my posts, i don't think i once directly insulted the op.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#384
If the treatments you're using have solid, peer reviewed evidence to support their viability...
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#379
The OP is correct. Always the same people too. Why do they care so much what choices other people
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#126
And they can make the same argument you are making. Science is fine but we know that science
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#202
I can give you links to the 'other side' also. Choosing a few devastating failures of science such
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#362
Also consider that peer review (especially in the medical sciences) appears to be broken...
Pholus
Jan 2014
#407
I don't "love" GMO foods. I simply note the misinformation spread by the anti GMO crowd.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#377
GMO foods has to be the ultimate example of 'woo'. And finally, thankfully, the world has awoken
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#457
No, the fact that you think you know more than the entire scientific community is hubris.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#401
Well you certainly proved the posters point about smug, condesending 1st responders
Katashi_itto
Jan 2014
#403
flame bait posters are a bunch of shit stirrers who have no interest in honest debate
cali
Jan 2014
#5
That sounds like an accusation. Are you innocent of posting flamebait, cali? n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#13
Juror #6 is wrong. I'm not whining at all. I am merely making an observation. How you
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#30
Thank you, jury. I figured this would be alerted because that is what the anti-woo crowd does to
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#26
And your post #184 is also whining about DU. Also, you come in here months after I
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#364
I'm not pissed. I merely asked you to recognize that you are whining too and that you have no
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#368
My favorites are the ones who have to even disrupt in the Creative Spec forum.
Gidney N Cloyd
Jan 2014
#16
I'm not arguing the efficacy of woo. I'm saying that those who are anti-woo,
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#23
Who is controlling what is tested? Universities? Doctors? Dreaded Big Pharma?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#70
I'm not saying anything is happening, I'm just questioning your assertion.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#120
I would agree that money and big business corrupts the approval process...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#106
That's laughable. How in the world am I attacking the "clinical approval process"?
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#125
Bingo. NOT PROFITABLE does not equate to NOT EFFECTIVE. That is an inherent bias.
GoneFishin
Jan 2014
#345
Woo is pretty much anything that hasn't (yet) passed the test of science. And some of it
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#35
Then trash the woo thread and move on. Simple. But to purposely bully or make fun
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#32
Wrong. I've seen with my own eyes bullying and emoticons used as a way to laugh at people. Also,
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#37
Everyone on this board demeans the hateful worldviews of the righties and the homophobes.
Codeine
Jan 2014
#259
It's people like you that get put on my ignore list. Have fun bullying others. I won't
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#416
The fact is that they don't know it isn't the weed until it's studied and as far as
Cleita
Jan 2014
#72
The reason for that is non-scientists interfered, marijuana was classified as a drug with...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#119
Actually it wasn't considered woo, it was considered untested or unproved...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#150
In the case of marijuana, yes, largely, though it is a outlier rather than something that is...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#189
you have dismissed the fact that medical mj was ever considered woo
questionseverything
Jan 2014
#228
But it wasn't considered woo, and the federal government is not necessarily swayed by facts...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#231
You also did not exclude herbal cures from your jargon 'woo'. Which is why the word sucks.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#174
No, eastern medicines are woo because there is little or no evidence to support them
intaglio
Jan 2014
#87
Your point? That has to do with access to health care, not quality of said care.
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#138
And again, that has to do with ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. So again, your point?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#146
That's stupid, does the East operate on a wholly different set of physical and biological laws?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#153
You know modern healthcare in China is predominately western medicine right?
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#392
No, you tell it to the millions who have died using arsenic and lead laced Ayurvedic medicines
intaglio
Jan 2014
#132
East/west doesn't figure into it. Treatment is either based in science or it is not.
Marr
Jan 2014
#134
So, you have a right to be completely full of crap, and convince others of it?
Mopar151
Jan 2014
#157
People are entitled to have opinions, but not to have those foolish opinions not laughed at!
on point
Jan 2014
#39
I know all about discussion boards. I've been on the Internet since the Compuserve/Prodigy days...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#54
Some people are superior to other people. I am superior to anyone who believes in....
Logical
Jan 2014
#68
we all do. but finding out you aren't superior to others has nothing to do with aliens.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#357
Actually, it has to metabolize in the body first, which can give the stomach conniption fits...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#78
Is the alternative medicine and supplemental industry non-profit all of the sudden?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#83
Amazing to see a thirty BILLION dollar/year industry so beloved and defended
etherealtruth
Jan 2014
#107
I know, I don't get it, I do wonder how many of them are owned, either partially or wholly, by...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#114
I think the largest manufactureres of mulit-vits are subsidiaries of large pharma
etherealtruth
Jan 2014
#128
Then your answer is NO. You have NO Scientific Research that supports YOUR claim that
bvar22
Jan 2014
#470
Big Pharma is abusive, yes, but it doesn't invalidate centuries of western medicine.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#393
We have the obligation to contradict bad information. Bad health advice is dangerous.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#77
Omg!!! not long ago if you sugested that stomach ulcers were caused by bacteria
darkangel218
Jan 2014
#216
Oh, I agree. But treating those who promote potentially dangerous woo badly is not the way
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#130
Not by any scientific standard. Marijuana was demonized because powerful people wanted it to be.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#251
What balance? You have one side(science) that admits it doesn't know everything...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#141
My issue, as you can see by my replies in this thread, is with anti-woo rants and ranters.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#325
Uhm, both chemicals you mentioned are used, widely in some cases, to treat a variety of ailments...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#324
Glutathione is an enzyme already present in our bodies, and direct absorption of it through pills...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#338
Actually, I just read Wikipedia, if its wrong, go ahead and correct it. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#344
Wikipedia is not a real good source. But I'm glad you admit where you got your info from.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#348
Actually, its me who is wrong, its a tripeptide, a synthesis of some amino acids, its one of those..
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#350
It's obfuscation. They are mentally pointing at themselves saying, 'I know everything and I refuse
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#147
Please back up and reverse that, its the alternative medicine people who claim to know everything...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#155
speaking as someone with no attachment to either woo or so-called skeptics,
paulkienitz
Jan 2014
#169
Yes, and during that time, Woo ruled - early scientists were trying to dispel woo.
hueymahl
Jan 2014
#285
You understand that the person making the outlandish claim is the one who needs the proof?......
Logical
Jan 2014
#238
Send me your best current evidence that aliens have visited earth. I will read it. n-t
Logical
Jan 2014
#257
Proof is not speculating. Proof is finding one of the probes. No one has. So as of now....
Logical
Jan 2014
#328
Four chapters of a book I studied in Northwestern grad school on the pharmacology of hallucinogens
ancianita
Jan 2014
#220
Exactly. And many who do know are labelled woo because the tyrannical parameters of 'official'
ancianita
Jan 2014
#270
it is a middle of the road crowd in many ways . Not so many progressives on many topics
lunasun
Jan 2014
#243
Yes, creationists and climate change deniers have similar reactions when confronted by real science
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#256
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."
G_j
Jan 2014
#262
Where do you see any evidence that I "beleive that stuff"? Links please. n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#359
God is not scientifically verified therefore for those who believe in God are idiots. Got it. n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#361
I am sorry that you are incapable of reading the entire thread but think you know everything anyway.
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#373
Because I don't have to entertain the idea the sun rises in the west....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jan 2014
#409
Are they the same people who pile on, deriding, marginalizing and mocking ALL religious beliefs
Common Sense Party
Jan 2014
#412
you would think if they are confident in their 'facts' they wouldn't need to act like bullies
Chrom
Jan 2014
#443
Hmm, that's funny, I heard that quantum mechanics was pretty woo-ish.
Waiting For Everyman
Jan 2014
#447
Creationists get offended when mean evil evolutionists poke holes in their crap as well.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#451
Except those on the side of evolution don't complain about a massive conspiracy to keep them down.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#454