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JDPriestly

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19. If vitamin supplements are but one element of the domain "woo," why do doctors prescribe
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:51 AM
Jan 2014

calcium supplements for people with osteoporosis, and vitamin B for pregnant women (at least they did that when I was pregnant).

An excellent doctor suggested that I rub aloe vera and a vitamin oil into my hands for a condition in my hands.

It would be more accurate to say that "some vitamin supplements" are but one element of the domain "woo."

Besides, sometimes the placebo effect works. In fact, I know a young mother who tells her three-year-old that she is giving him a placebo. She says, "You had an upset tummy didn't you? And then I gave you a placebo and you felt better? Right?" It works.

Sometimes we take "real scientifically tested medicines" when we don't really need them. But they sometimes work. Now if we take a scientifically tested medicine when we don't need it and then feel better after we have taken it, should we call that "woo"? Or is what we are calling "woo" really just the way that people who like "woo" comfort themselves? And if a person who takes a lot of woo does feel better due to the placebo effect, why should we discourage that?

Some years ago when one of my children was born, we lived in a country in which mothers were advised to feed their babies camomile tea if they were gaining too much weight or had an upset stomach. Guess what? My child who was born in that country and drank the camomile tea for comfort still finds a cup of camomile tea to be very comforting.

Lots of good, healthy products do not come in a box or bottle with a prescription label on them. And lots of comforting products are among those non-prescription items, folk medicine if you will.

As for acupuncture. I had it once for an earache and it really helped me. Placebo effect, woo or perhaps a real remedy? I don't know but it worked for me. On the other hand if I have an infected elbow, I want an antibiotic cream.

In the meantime I swear by aloe vera. It really soothes the skin. And vitamin B really does make me feel better, placebo or not.

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Precisely. "Magical thinking." Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #1
So vitamin supplements were the cause for holding civilization back. ok. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #2
"vitamin supplements" are but one element of the domain "woo" Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #4
And they have held civilization back too. This whole Woo thing is total nonsense Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #18
If vitamin supplements are but one element of the domain "woo," why do doctors prescribe JDPriestly Jan 2014 #19
Copernicus' ideas were considered "woo" at the time, by conventional thinkers of the day. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #3
you mean the conventional pope who wanted to kill him if he dared say the earth wasn't Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #5
Is it that different than "conventional medicine" orgs like the AMA vs Chiropractors? Electric Monk Jan 2014 #6
show me your scientific data then. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #7
By his or her logic, ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #9
At 2 in the morning on a Sunday night? Google it yourself, lol. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #11
Science adjusts its beliefs based on what's observed. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #8
Intelligent design was at one point held to high academic esteem. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #10
Thank you, that's a very good way to put it. They (OP et al) are framing it backwards. nt Electric Monk Jan 2014 #12
The OP is a pretzel. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #16
no, I actually don't. scientific method will observe and accept or reject various hypotheses Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #13
You're failing to ask epistemic questions. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #14
Postmodernist nonsense Confusious Jan 2014 #17
Actually, gravity is very much a mystery Drahthaardogs Jan 2014 #21
"Postmodernism is shit, and it has no clothes." - Want to talk about par for the course. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #27
Christianity fucked us over and continues to do so by labeling science as woo. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #15
Better living through chemistry. BlueToTheBone Jan 2014 #20
toilet paper is the height of civilisation, especially the real soft stuff. thank you science. loli phabay Jan 2014 #36
The older the tree, the softer on your tush. n/t BlueToTheBone Jan 2014 #40
i thought it was the bushier the bush. loli phabay Jan 2014 #41
When JFK talked of putting a man on the moon... NCTraveler Jan 2014 #23
There's a difference between thinking something is too hard to do... Humanist_Activist Jan 2014 #24
Woo has gone so far here, at this point its use has been broadened. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #25
I do kind of agree with you. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #30
No, no, no. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #26
Three no's, that's big time. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #28
No! A thousand times no! NuclearDem Jan 2014 #32
Love it. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #33
Your post is woo by your own definition. Vattel Jan 2014 #38
Bad! Bad! NuclearDem Jan 2014 #39
True, but... Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #29
Get back to us on this ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #31
lawdy, lawdy Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #34
Just don't confuse skepticism as woo. Glassunion Jan 2014 #35
Fossil fuels are the reason we lived so well in the 20th century. bemildred Jan 2014 #37
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