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51. Blame the RW

What you're seeing are people employing a RW tactic. It's not that most of the people employing this tactic support RW frames. Some have just discovered that the tactic is why RW frames are so pervasive

To get others to accept the most bizarre crap (actual woo), some are suddenly lumping everything into the "woo" category (mint tea = woo). You either accept science or mint tea. LOL!

Superstitions have existed for a long time. Some people will admit to being superstitious about something, and tell you that they don't know why they believe it. They just do.

In recent years, and especially since the rise of teabaggery, a lot of things are being conflated to justify teabagger bullshit, and too many progressives have been duped by teabaggers.

Everything (choice, climate change, LGBT and women's rights, medicine, social progress and even being anti-war) is being questioned using the RW tactic of attacking the credibility of facts (and progressive priorities) in favor of bullshit frames. You're supposed to be deadly afraid of "corporatist" and "fascist," so much so that you reject progress, which is never good enough. The man is after you. You're oppressed. There is no hope. Since Obama became President, all our leaders are "corporatist fascists," "trojan horses" who want to harm you. Somewhere out there is a "real progressive," but the the "corporatist fascists" will never allow that person to be elected. Nothing will change because you have no choice. The message is anti-government.

Woo: because everything you've been told is bullshit. This is what they're selling.

Has anyone noticed that there isn't a push for anything anymore? Everything is written about or framed in the negative, unachievable, except when cited as an ideal. There are no steps, no solutions. It's all or nothing, and it will be nothing because our leaders are "corporatist fascists," "trojan horses" who want to harm you.

Interestingly, the recent reports about Iraq exposes some of this. You can see the people who desperately want to blame Obama for the situation because he withdrew the troops. Strange, huh?

It seems to be an attempt to disrupt progress. All it takes is a few people pushing certain ideas, and the autopilot acceptance of these false frames.

The creep of anti-progressive views under the guise of "nuanced" thinking has become more noticeable.

That was the point of this poll:

Which one of these views should liberals/progressives be more tolerant of:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023925392

Nuance is good. Nuance used to attack facts in favor of long-standing superstitions and other paranormal or unscientific beliefs is bullshit. Nuance leaves room for enlightenment and scientific discovery. Nuance is not a tool to attack facts with things that cannot be proven. One's belief system is just that, a belief system. It's not to be confused with science or presented as a replacement for facts.

The climate change debate is a perfect example of dismissing facts for BS. Every time there is harsh winter weather, the deniers start screaming that climate change is bogus. They are nowhere to be found during harsh summer weather (drought, sand storms, tornadoes).

There was thread here a while back questioning the science behind climate change.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876292

The poster, who survived here for two years, embraced every BS RW argument.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=265347&sub=trans

Over the last two years, there have been a parade of other posters (no longer with us), pushing teabagger bullshit. They've roped in a lot of people. I can't tell if it's because people want to believe the crap or if there is some other dynamic involved.

Whenever I stumble on a really long justification (opinion) advocating something, I read through it carefully. You have to take the time to identify the contradictions and distortions. When I discover it's complete bullshit, I move on. Still, these false frames attract a lot of people.

That's the RW tactic: Dazzle them with bullshit.