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ProSense

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18. Reagan and Rumsfeld were right?

Mon Jan 6, 2014, 12:35 PM

Jan 2014

I mean, the Iraq war was wrong, but "a brutal strongman type" like Sadam was good for the people who weren't subject to his brutality.

Brutality is needed for peace and stability.

Should we push that talking point?

"This is how the world works in more places than we care to admit. A friggin' alpha male strongman who is utterly ruthless and will keep people in line."

Would we welcome such rule here, or is it only for them?

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yup, we need a brutal strongman type back in charge in Iraq [View all] quinnox Jan 2014 OP

We should have never interfered. Laelth Jan 2014 #1

We probably shoulda never invented that country in the first place n/t arcane1 Jan 2014 #2

Who came up with that idea anyways? DetlefK Jan 2014 #4

UK and France developed (with the consent of Russia) the Sykes-Picot Accord during the closing days LanternWaste Jan 2014 #11

Gee, I can't remember (but surely Lindsey Graham and John McCain were strongly opposed to it)! 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #25

That war was beyond wrong get the red out Jan 2014 #3

everyone could see an invasion would unleash hell politicman Jan 2014 #7

During reagan/bush1 years Saddam was our friend madokie Jan 2014 #5

Imagine a 100000 size font of FUCKING DUH! L0oniX Jan 2014 #6

how's about we donate dick cheney to the cause...we could throw in liz as a bonus spanone Jan 2014 #8

That works for me! City Lights Jan 2014 #50

Intervention is wrong, and so is advocating dictatorships. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9

As a Desert Storm vet I agree, a ruthless bastard is needed. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #10

who is "we"? cali Jan 2014 #12

Best question. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #31

Liberals used to criticize US foreign policy for supporting brutal dictators who could pampango Jan 2014 #13

Funny gaspee Jan 2014 #14

Very true. Of course everyone claiming to be liberal while spreading RW talking points FSogol Jan 2014 #15

Then what is to be done? Invade Iraq again? AngryAmish Jan 2014 #16

Of course not. Not promoting brutal dictators is not the same as promoting invasion. pampango Jan 2014 #24

I don't think that their idea of democracy is the same as our idea of democracy AngryAmish Jan 2014 #27

"People living in repressive regimes mostly want elections because they want someone on their side pampango Jan 2014 #45

"Liberals"/"Some liberals"? It's an OP by one person. CJCRANE Jan 2014 #19

Exactly, it is one man's opinion. I never claimed to speak for all liberals quinnox Jan 2014 #20

so who is the "we" you referred to? do tell. cali Jan 2014 #33

Here's the problem as I see it. snot Jan 2014 #17

Good post quinnox Jan 2014 #21

Reagan and Rumsfeld were right? ProSense Jan 2014 #18

What you're trying to do is compare a mind set of a westernized culture firsttimer Jan 2014 #22

No, I'm not, ProSense Jan 2014 #23

Then what are you doing? firsttimer Jan 2014 #26

Is ProSense Jan 2014 #28

What happened is you had no point or a solution to begin with... firsttimer Jan 2014 #36

Hey, ProSense Jan 2014 #39

Afghanistan and Iraq are VERY different countries from a cultural perspective cali Jan 2014 #29

Oh come on, Cali, don't you know that all brown skinned people live in tribal societies? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #32

there's something truly appalling about the op? advocating brutal dictatorship cali Jan 2014 #34

jury voted 2-4 to keep, btw geek tragedy Jan 2014 #35

. firsttimer Jan 2014 #37

Link ProSense Jan 2014 #40

No, what's different is the terrain firsttimer Jan 2014 #38

"Iraqis are more educated but the mind set of a tribe is there." ProSense Jan 2014 #41

No , I'm asking you for what you think the solution should be.. firsttimer Jan 2014 #42

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #43

I agree but they haven't been able to achieve that. firsttimer Jan 2014 #46

IRaq is probably more like the United States than Afghanistan JI7 Jan 2014 #48

Your op is an ugly illustration of a mindset that has no business on a liberal website. cali Jan 2014 #30

+1 demmiblue Jan 2014 #44

Do you care to offer CFLDem Jan 2014 #47

He hated religion and kept it out of his government. A somewhat smart dictator. Rex Jan 2014 #49

It does not matter what "WE" need in Iraq the people of IRAQ have to work it out. Vincardog Jan 2014 #51