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geek tragedy

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23. "tiny fire"
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jan 2014

another example of the conspiracy woo crowd just making shit up in order to support their false religion.

After the North tower fell, its debris ignited several large, out of control fires in several different locations in WTC.

And, people who actually know stuff did a report on this:

In November 2008, NIST released its final report on the causes of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center.[13] This followed NIST's August 21, 2008, draft report which included a period for public comments.[40] In its investigation, NIST utilized ANSYS to model events leading up to collapse initiation and LS-DYNA models to simulate the global response to the initiating events.[49] NIST determined that diesel fuel did not play an important role, nor did the structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers, nor did the transfer elements (trusses, girders, and cantilever overhangs). But the lack of water to fight the fire was an important factor. The fires burned out of control during the afternoon, causing floor beams near column 79 to expand and push a key girder off its seat, triggering the floors to fail around column 79 on Floors 8 to 14. With a loss of lateral support across nine floors, column 79 buckled – pulling the east penthouse and nearby columns down with it. With the buckling of these critical columns, the collapse then progressed east-to-west across the core, ultimately overloading the perimeter support, which buckled between Floors 7 and 17, causing the remaining portion of the building above to fall downward as a single unit. The fires, fueled by office contents, along with the lack of water, were the key reasons for the collapse.[13]



But, some guy on the Internet with a youtube page says differently, so the scientists must be lying.

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Technically, the 9/11 lies are Poo* (R) Berlum Jan 2014 #1
Here we go LOL snooper2 Jan 2014 #2
The general perception is that high temps and humidity make you less smart Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4
Seattle? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #5
Nevada? eom. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #18
Nah, that was just failure to investigate nt treestar Jan 2014 #3
Did it give a paranormal or supernatural explanation? edhopper Jan 2014 #6
I would say the official explanation is supernatural Chrom Jan 2014 #7
I believe there is a separate forum for this discussion. edhopper Jan 2014 #9
"steel doesn't usually melt like that" Major Nikon Jan 2014 #10
True, steel loses strength before melting, but can you explain symmetrical collapse due to BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #12
I has been explained many times Major Nikon Jan 2014 #13
I called NIST's non-disclosure of model parameters woo BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #19
Which wouldn't be an example of woo Major Nikon Jan 2014 #37
This is classic nutjob woo--several other steel frame buildings have collapsed geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11
Are there any cases of skyscrapers similar to the three towers falling like they did BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #15
People tend to overlook the fact that a giant airplane collided with the steel superstructure geek tragedy Jan 2014 #17
People tend to overlook the fact that Building 7 was not hit by an airplane Chrom Jan 2014 #22
"tiny fire" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #23
tiny compared to other buildings that did not collapse Chrom Jan 2014 #30
Let's see, internet photo vs NIST. Hmm, close call, but geek tragedy Jan 2014 #35
No they don't. zappaman Jan 2014 #24
I'll trust the govt on this more that you and those wacky CT'ers. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #29
Yes whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #8
Does the official story cause Autism? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #14
1) No. 2) Who cares? cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #16
Best answer yet. eom. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #20
Good question. I find it strange that the one event that has had such a Autumn Jan 2014 #21
If you refuse to enforce the SOP for GD due to your belief in 911 Trutherism, you ought to resign geek tragedy Jan 2014 #25
+100! n/t zappaman Jan 2014 #28
+1000. eom. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #32
+1000 any host who refuses to respect the established rules that are very clear should resign Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #41
The theory that Iraq was involved certainly is! LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #26
yes exactly Chrom Jan 2014 #34
What they DID with it, yes. Not the events themselves. LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #40
It's not woo. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #27
"the 'investigation' wasn't based on science" zappaman Jan 2014 #31
so true. incredibly foolish, even for a day when a lot of posts have been incredibly stupid. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #36
But, the Truthers have a ringer as a GD host, so it's all good. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #38
actually two 9/11 truthers have appeared on their thread discussing it in the Forum and Group Hosts Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #42
Don't have access, but I can only imagine. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #44
AND REC-ed it! zappaman Jan 2014 #47
What matters is not what the rules are, but who gets to enforce the rules. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #49
Who the hell cares. It doesn't matter one bit if it was MIHOP, LIHOP, and any other kind of HOP. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #33
your lack of understanding of scientific method is why you believe La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #39
Why did Bushco not even do an investigation? Then they attempted to block the investigation... Chrom Jan 2014 #45
The Congress initiated the investigation, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #46
I think truthers are wooo hrmjustin Jan 2014 #43
Maybe there was no world trade center, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #48
It's supposed to be banished to another forum, but some GD hosts are abusing their authority geek tragedy Jan 2014 #50
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