Is it productive to repeatedly remind white people of how privileged they are?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

150. You posted violent crimes. Most violent crimes committed by blacks are directed at other blacks.

Most violent crimes committed by whites are directed at other whites. There is no such thing as "BLACK CRIME," as there is no such thing as "WHITE CRIME".

MOST CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY WHITES, PERIOD!!

You posted only homicides, which again, shows how racist you really are.

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So, let's take your example of violent crimes, since you equate blacks with violence (that's the first thing you thought of when posting about crime--crime = blacks + violence = "black crime&quot

I'll use the brilliant Tim Wise to help me illustrate the facts:

Fact 1: Only about 1 percent of African Americans — and no more than 2 percent of black males — will commit a violent crime in a given year

Fact 2: No more than 0.7 percent (seven-tenths of one percent) of African Americans will commit a violent crime against a white person in a given year, and fewer than 0.3 (three-tenths of one percent) of whites will be victimized by a black person in a given year.

Fact 3: Whites are 6 times as likely to be murdered by another white person as by a black person.

http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/race-crime-and-statistical-malpractice-how-the-right-manipulates-white-fear-with-bogus-data/

Fact 4: And most important: The homicide death rate for black men was actually higher in 1950 than it is today!!

(Look past your own racism and review the FBI statistics that you sent to me!!!)

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf



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And to punch a deeper hole into your blatantly racist "black crime" argument, consider this:

Since there were roughly 31 million African Americans, age 12 and over — and thus eligible for consideration in crime data — in 2008 (this is noted in the same DOJ tables Williams and I are both referencing here), at most, this would mean that for every 1000 blacks in the population there were 30 criminal offenders, and thus, at most, 3 percent of blacks committed a violent crime in 2008 (meaning, importantly, that at least 97 percent did not). And since there were approximately 205 million whites, 12 and over, in the population that year, this would mean that for every 1000 whites in the population there were 12 criminal offenders, and thus, at most, about 1.2 percent of whites committed a violent crime in 2008.*

Of course, in truth, and for both groups, the numbers are quite a bit smaller than this. After all, the 30 offenders per 1000 persons (the 3 percent rate of offending for blacks) are not 30 different people. In other words, to say that 3 percent of blacks commit a violent crime each year would assume that each offender committed only one crime, such that the number of offenses equalled the number of offenders, but that isn’t the case. There are, as we all know, many offenders who commit multiple offenses each year. As such, the number of offenders would be quite a bit smaller than the number of offenses. Criminologists have estimated, for instance, that 70 percent of criminal offenses are committed by just 7 percent of the total offenders, meaning that there is a small hardcore group of seriously predatory criminals out there doing most of the crime. This would mean that 93 percent of all offenders commit just 30 percent of the crimes. So this would mean that of the 950,000 violent crimes committed by blacks in 2008, 70 percent of them (or 665,000) would have been committed by just 7 percent of all black offenders, while 285,000, roughly, would have been committed by the other 93 percent of offenders. If we assume that the 93 percent who weren’t the major repeat offenders only committed one crime each (likely a conservative estimate, but one which errs on the side of the right-wing argument by maximizing the potential numbers of black offenders), this would mean that, at most, the 285,000 offenses actually equate to 93 percent of the offenders. If 285,000 represents 93 percent of all black offenders, then the remaining 7 percent of offenders above that number would come to only an additional 20,000 or so offenders — major hardcore criminals who commit about 665,000 crimes each year. This would mean that at most there might be a little more than 300,000 individual black violent offenders each year. As a percentage of the 12 and over black population in 2008, this would represent only about 1 percent of all blacks who will commit a violent crime in a given year, versus 99 percent who will not.

http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/race-crime-and-statistical-malpractice-how-the-right-manipulates-white-fear-with-bogus-data/

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Now, let's concentrate on the latest FBI crime statistics and look at ALL crimes committed:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

But, let's not stop there, let's see if Tim Wise is right. Has the crime rate decline amongst the black population in 40 years, as he claims?

The latest FBI's National Crime Victimization Survey confirms:

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/mpcncvs.pdf

And, this gem:

Again, black homicides, like all homicides, are in a steep, 20-year decline. In fact, the rates at which blacks both commit and are victims of homicide have shown sharper declines than those of whites. It's true that Chicago has had an unusually violent last few years, but this is an anomaly among big American cities. The 2012 murder rate in Washington, D.C., for example, hit a 50-year low. Violent crime in New York and Los Angeles is also falling to levels we haven't seen in decades.

The numbers don't lie:

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbse&sid=31
http://wamu.org/news/12/12/31/dc_murder_rate_for_2012_at_50_year_low


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I challenge you rid yourself of this horrible disease of internalized racism. You and others in this thread have made incredible assumptions about black people, assumptions that are outrageous!

The notion that liberals cannot be racists is laughable after what I'm reading here.

And your poll? It couldn't be more racially biased and worded.

Educate yourself. Get to know more black people, not just acquaintances or people you think are your friends who are black. Learn more about how black people feel about race, racism and yes, white privilege in this society. Because whether you realize it or not, white people do enjoy white skin privilege. There are clear cut examples of this that shouldn't be lost on them. For instance, the fact that none of them have to have conversations with their black sons about how to dress or act when walking down the street; or with their black daughters about how to behave when going shopping in stores, or that she'll always been viewed as a "welfare queen".

And again, the fact that you raised the issue of "black crime" when there's no such thing reveals what is in your head about black people and your thoughts about black people. And further, that you equated "black crime" immediately with violence added to how you view black people in the way we are and how we behave.

Educate yourself.