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In reply to the discussion: A Timely Repost: Do You Know Why Albert Einstein Left The Berlin Academy of Sciences ??? [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)15. No, and no to your disruptive red herring.
You wrote:
If imagination > knowledge, is then, religion > science? Might make a few heads explode around here.
Your post misses Einstein's point.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." ― Albert Einstein
Einstein was talking about scientific imagination and scientific knowledge, which should be expected since he is a scientist and does not mention religion in the quote.
You introduced a red herring by introducing religion. So I reversed the expectation that your post engendered and posted as I did. Here is a fuller quote which shows the context, to make clear (should be clear enough) that it was nothing about religion:
I believe in intuition and inspiration.
At times I feel certain I am right while not knowing the reason. When the eclipse of 1919 confirmed my intuition, I was not in the least surprised. In fact I would have been astonished had it turned out otherwise. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.
Yes, scientific imagination trumps religious "knowledge", which is only faith and voices and is not knowledge at all.
No, religious imagination does not trump scientific knowledge. Religious imagination imagines that man was created magically 6000 years ago. Religious imagination holds women in subjegation and oppression -- not all religious imagination, just most of it.
Scientific imagination subjects itself to the testing and invites being disproved. If it is possible to disprove a theory or show how an observation was mistaken, then it should be done. Religious imagination permits no questioning, wraps itself in robes, and demands respect where little or none is due.
Things that religionists believe such as talking snakes, 76 virgins for each male warrior in heaven, reincarnation, walking on water, and the morality of sacrificing children are myths. Science is far better than religion. Nobody launched crusades on Rome because they believed in Greek earth-centric astronomy. People are not beating up gays around the world because of some scientific belief. The 8 year old girl in Afghanistan sent with a suicide vest by her Taliban brother was sent for religious bigotry, not by science.
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A Timely Repost: Do You Know Why Albert Einstein Left The Berlin Academy of Sciences ??? [View all]
WillyT
Jan 2014
OP
He resigned from the Prussian Academy of Science in 1933 after Hitler came to power
jakeXT
Jan 2014
#1
No. Logical fallacies are run-of-the-mill here, just like what you wrote. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#4
No. Scientific imagination is more powerful than religious "knowledge".
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#9
Religion is disruptive. It doesn't appreciate being questioned. It has nothing to do with the OP.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#30
I think the post boils down to the idea that religion has nothing to do with imagination.
Festivito
Jan 2014
#42
The "actual concept" is what Einstein stated. And it was the OP that stated that, not me.
Festivito
Jan 2014
#14
No. You miss the concept by missing the boat. You bring the real smoke screen.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#19
No. You tell us how Pasteur relates to religion curing anything (which it does not). nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#49
Every bit of motivation from religion for "healers" can be done without religion.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#55
Yes, and many other nasty things. Of course it is not the only source but is a huge source.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#58
If you don't like bigotry and tribalism then don't be a source of them.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#59
No. Imagination most usefully works by going outside of beliefs & old backgrounds.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#32
He Was In The U.S. And Did Not Return Because Of Hitler, But He Was Repulsed At The Glee He Saw...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#7
I May Have Got The Timeline Screwed Up (Remembering From A Great Documentary On Him, But...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#10
I'm afraid I think this is completely wrong in just about all particulars
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2014
#26
this caused an enormous crisis of conscience in the US scientific world after Trinity and WWII
MisterP
Jan 2014
#52
I really can't imagine why a Jew might have chosen to leave Berlin in 1933....
LeftishBrit
Jan 2014
#57