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Festivito

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22. .. and what that belief, that faith can do for imagination.

Mon Jan 6, 2014, 05:03 PM

Jan 2014

Sometimes all it takes is an apple falling on ones head. Focus .. may come from the ouch! Imagination still comes from the background, a set of beliefs honed throughout life imaginatively applied to a new concept from old concepts ligatured to several old and stronger concepts in which there is faith. For example, a faith in math, a faith in algebra while in a world that questions the validity of simple numbers.

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A Timely Repost: Do You Know Why Albert Einstein Left The Berlin Academy of Sciences ??? [View all] WillyT Jan 2014 OP

He resigned from the Prussian Academy of Science in 1933 after Hitler came to power jakeXT Jan 2014 #1

and he was Jewish. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jan 2014 #18

If imagination > knowledge, is then, religion > science? Festivito Jan 2014 #2

No. Logical fallacies are run-of-the-mill here, just like what you wrote. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #4

How is it a fallacy? Festivito Jan 2014 #5

No. Scientific imagination is more powerful than religious "knowledge". Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #9

But yes for religious imagination over scientific knowledge then? Festivito Jan 2014 #11

No, and no to your disruptive red herring. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #15

Immagination is the source of greater knowledge(NT) The Wizard Jan 2014 #27

Yes, imagination too. That was the point of Einstein's quote. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #31

disruptive?? demwing Jan 2014 #28

Religion is disruptive. It doesn't appreciate being questioned. It has nothing to do with the OP. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #30

Science is rational demwing Jan 2014 #39

I think the post boils down to the idea that religion has nothing to do with imagination. Festivito Jan 2014 #42

No. It boils down to the OP has nothing to do with religion. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #47

You're misstating the actual concept Orrex Jan 2014 #12

The "actual concept" is what Einstein stated. And it was the OP that stated that, not me. Festivito Jan 2014 #14

If you think Einstein meant religion>science, then show your source Orrex Jan 2014 #17

I posed it as a question, not as a fact. Festivito Jan 2014 #37

Well, that's disingenuous of you Orrex Jan 2014 #38

Wrong. I like the OP quote. eom. Festivito Jan 2014 #44

No. You miss the concept by missing the boat. You bring the real smoke screen. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #19

The most imaginative religion never cured anything ... GeorgeGist Jan 2014 #34

Tell that to Pasteur. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #41

No. You tell us how Pasteur relates to religion curing anything (which it does not). nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #49

If you're waiting for some description of Pasteur's religion Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #50

Every bit of motivation from religion for "healers" can be done without religion. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #55

Are you concerned that religion engenders bigotry and tribalism? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #56

Yes, and many other nasty things. Of course it is not the only source but is a huge source. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #58

If you don't like bigotry and tribalism then don't be a source of them. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #59

Festivito introduced religion into this discussion, needlessly. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #60

Religion has to do with belief. truedelphi Jan 2014 #13

.. and what that belief, that faith can do for imagination. Festivito Jan 2014 #22

No. Imagination most usefully works by going outside of beliefs & old backgrounds. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #32

When 2+2=5, can faith in math be relative? eom. Festivito Jan 2014 #45

That post is nonsensical. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #46

Einsteins theory of relativity is flawed. He realized it. Festivito Jan 2014 #48

I hope I'll always know when to walk away. hunter Jan 2014 #3

He left because of Hitler and Progressive dog Jan 2014 #6

He Was In The U.S. And Did Not Return Because Of Hitler, But He Was Repulsed At The Glee He Saw... WillyT Jan 2014 #7

You had him leaving in WW1, you do know that Progressive dog Jan 2014 #8

I May Have Got The Timeline Screwed Up (Remembering From A Great Documentary On Him, But... WillyT Jan 2014 #10

So shouldn't you edit your OP? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #29

Was it the woo wars? Kaleva Jan 2014 #16

so it had nothing to do with Hitler getting power and him being Jewish ? JI7 Jan 2014 #20

See Post #10... WillyT Jan 2014 #23

didn't Einstein support the US developing weapons ? JI7 Jan 2014 #21

Not Really... But... WillyT Jan 2014 #24

so in the midst of WWII he was supportive of it an understood the threat JI7 Jan 2014 #25

I'm afraid I think this is completely wrong in just about all particulars Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #26

LOL !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #33

About Einstein: truedelphi Jan 2014 #35

Touche, I admit. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #36

because he was a Jew? nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #40

He was owed beer and travel expenses. Yet they did not want to pay up. Glassunion Jan 2014 #43

I miss RandomThoughts' word salads. LAGC Jan 2014 #53

You can't solve problems without a new model. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #51

this caused an enormous crisis of conscience in the US scientific world after Trinity and WWII MisterP Jan 2014 #52

So he left due to the development of more efficient killing machines... Omnith Jan 2014 #54

I really can't imagine why a Jew might have chosen to leave Berlin in 1933.... LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #57