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In reply to the discussion: I. Am. Not. Your. Enemy. [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)112. Well said
I would take point in only one point
I believe the ACA is a mediocre solution to a hard core problem. That does not mean I am your enemy.
The ACA has not ever been seen as a 'solution'. It is the first step and, as first steps go, it is a radical departure. While some folks write smart ass threads bemoaning that ACA is not single payer they appear to be unaware that the ACA is the single largest expansion of single payer since the advent of Medicaid. To date more than 4 million low income folks have been added to Medicaid/CHIP roles. This is hardly 'mediocre'. More over many of the 2 million private ACA enrollees will, like me, be getting excellent subsidies, which duplicate the function of single payer systems, if they are not technically so.
The second point is that there is no one step switch to single payer. It is true that England flipped a switch, all at once, but that was only because they were faced with a national emergency after the war and their entire health care industry had collapsed, and their was a national realization that the entire country had a shared sacrifice and now should have a shared benefit.
Even if we could have some how gotten it passed the Senate, it would never have gotten Chief Justice's Roberts deciding vote. This isn't conjecture but fact. We know this because while he found the ACA constitutional he found the federal mandate that all states expand Medicare to be unconstitutional. Expanding Medicare is a much smaller step in the single payer evolution.
Canada took 20 years to move from a very modest guaranteed hospital plan in a small province to comprehensive national single payer coverage.
If you look at any federal agency, Social Security, CDC, Medicare and so on, support for their growth always occurs after they demonstrate their effectiveness.
History will show that the ACA wasn't simply the largest peacetime expansion of the Federal Government into the private sector in 200 years, it was the largest step possible. Anything more would not have passed the Roberts Court.
So while I enjoy your post and its message, I find that characterizing the ACA as a proposed 'solution' rather than a historic 'first step' is unfortunate.
In any case I am not your enemy and applaud your reasoned argument for a wider perspective and more civility at DU.
edited to add: I occasionally shop at WalMart. They are never my first choice and I go their rarely but sometimes, especially in some rural areas (i.e. Brawley CA) they are the only place to shop within 20 miles. That people would want to try and make an issue with such a statement just shows that they didn't get your point at all. Sorry to hear about your wife and son. Best of luck.
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I think it is cheaper to shop at Costco. You have to shell out to get large amounts
Maraya1969
Jan 2014
#63
Oh yea, I had a prescription that wasn't covered by insurance and Costco was 1/2 the price of
Maraya1969
Jan 2014
#117
I think she is talking about people scorning you. And there's nothing wrong with your linked post.
freshwest
Jan 2014
#21
I would not do that - the poor and disadvantaged have enough to bear without getting knocked here.
freshwest
Jan 2014
#19
Right, because driving a hundred miles to where there is anything other than WalMart is a
TransitJohn
Jan 2014
#91
With over 5000 posts I would think you have been on DU long enough to know better
SomethingFishy
Jan 2014
#11
Woo is just the latest troll topic. I think it was pee oh are en before that. nt
valerief
Jan 2014
#42
I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. But you shouldn't take message board threads so personally.
nomorenomore08
Jan 2014
#25
No, you're not. But neither are you one of those obsessed with bullying and controlling
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#26
There is a very small group here that are not interested in decent discussions.
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#40
Ha, you sound like me with some RW acquaintances. I've said the same thing, that I'm not
valerief
Jan 2014
#41